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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "If you think that Prescott was better than Fielden tonight then I really question your knowledge of the game.
What we'll do is wait and see the stats from tonights game, they will probably be in Mondays League Express.'"
Prescott is strong, runs hard and sometimes good lines. Unfortunately his ball retention in the tackle is pitiful. It has been the case for a good few years, and so long as its the case he won't be good enough for where we want to be.
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| I always feared we'd struggle up front with just two genuine props but I didn't think we'd struggle as much as we did. We needed Fielden and Prescott to have big games tonight for us but they didn't produce
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| Well question my knowledge i wont lose any sleep.
Watching the game again now. The first half Prescott came up with some big plays especially the big hit that forced Morley to knock on really early which helped us to get on the front foot early on. Fielden on the other hand made 2 maybe three knock ons one being on the first tackle when we was 20 mins away from thier line. Which was without being tackled or being under pressure.
Prescott had a bad last say 3-5 mins were he knocked on twice i think but the game was already gone. They will be included in the stats but in all honesty didnt matter one bit. Stats can lie at times but yeah wait to see the stats if that will make you happy.
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| Quote: DP_wwrlfc "With a full team ie. Coley, Micky mac, O'Carroll even Bailey we missed today just for his sheer size plus fully fit Roberts and goulding and I'd fancy us big time against Wire.
We had Tuson Propping today who tried his heart out but come on hes was the smallest player in either pack never mind Front row. McLlorum and especially Coley was missed big time.
Although i do agree that its an area we can improve next year.'"
I love Tuson. He has the heart of a lion and is a tackling machine. That said, he's simply not big enough to play prop.
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| Wigan always had big, hard as nails props, now we have 2 walking-talking knock-on machines.
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| We just needed all our props available and we'd probably have won.
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| We could have done with Coley for sure, I wince whenever Fielden and Prescott get the ball, just expecting a knock-on from them.
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| Quote: Enicomb "We just needed all our props available and we'd probably have won.'"
I agree. From what i saw tonight i would definatley fancy our chances v Wire in playoffs with a fully fit team.
Tonight in the first 20 we outplayed them. But our pack as a whole got tired due to our lack of Props (size). That led to our creative forwards ( J.Tomkins and Lockers ) having to do so much hard work it took away there attacking edge and for me that is were our biggest advantage lies against virtually every team in the league our back three.
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| Quote: P-J "I love Tuson. He has the heart of a lion and is a tackling machine. That said, he's simply not big enough to play prop.'"
In 11yrs of representing the L.Warriors / NW Counties, i dont recall that he ever once played in that position.
I'm not exactly sure what SW/MM have in mind for him?
Stick him in the centres / on the wing, and Chris would be in his element.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "If you think that Prescott was better than Fielden tonight then I really question your knowledge of the game.
What we'll do is wait and see the stats from tonights game, they will probably be in Mondays League Express.'"
I think both were poor tonight and i doubt very much either of them will be starting props next year if they are even still here. In the big games like tonight and the playoffs in recent seasons big players shine. They havent and therefore dont deserve a starting spot. 3rd and 4th prop spots would be about right.
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| Quote: Leyland Warrior "In 11yrs of representing the L.Warriors / NW Counties, i dont recall that he ever once played in that position.
I'm not exactly sure what SW/MM have in mind for him?
Stick him in the centres / on the wing, and Chris would be in his element.
IMO he is superb...No other way to explain it..He makes an immediate impact and punches well above his weight..i hope he is in the mix for a long time to come.
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| Quote: Enicomb "We just needed all our props available and we'd probably have won.'"
To go into the game with only two prop forwards was poor management. Davies &/or Feka should have been in the 17 to add some more size and power to the front row.
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| Quote: Leyther_till_death "To go into the game with only two prop forwards was poor management. Davies &/or Feka should have been in the 17 to add some more size and power to the front row.'"
Yeah, i agree.
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| The problem is if Coley or Fielden is not available we don't have an experienced or good enough alternative because Madge will not play Feka.
I am sure Feka does not match up to his standards in several ways but he is still a SL standard player and NOT playing him isn't working either against a big pack.
There was no need to have such an inexperienced pack with Feka in the squad. I am sure the younger players can train the house down compared to Feka but they are not ready to be played in such numbers with only Fielden as a senior front row player.
Having Deacon in the Bench and playing him for 10 mins was pointless. I'd rather have Feka on for 10 mins than do that the trouble is Feka is now probably so not match fit and demotivated he probably isn't an alternative anyway. Well done Wigan in reducing our squad by one senior prop!
Does anyone think Solomona would get into our side? I don't because he's as much as Madge type player as Feka is. He's not that mobile, he looks overweight but he was plenty big enough to tire our lot out. Smith will use what he's got whereas Madge seems to want to stick to his principles even if it means putting too many young players up against an experienced pack. Well experience (or is it pragmatism of playing what you have got?) won out over principle tonight.
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| Quote: DaveO "Smith will use what he's got whereas Madge seems to want to stick to his principles even if it means putting too many young players up against an experienced pack. Well experience (or is it pragmatism of playing what you have got?) won out over principle tonight.
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It's not good to have a team of over thirties; apparently!
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