He's played 18 SL games and scored 17 tries over the last two seasons.

He is clearly SL standard. His game is not perfect but then neither are the games of plenty of other players who play SL every week.

Dave

He certainly showed a lot of potential in the few appearances he made at Blackpool, knows his way to the line and defensively was very strong, however super league being a much higher level, not sure how he'll go, good luck to the lad big chance to prove himself.

I am sorry he is not clearly SL standard at all and it is very much up in the air if he is or not. You are basing your entire argument on tries scored, which is a very flawed argument as the vast amount of tries that a winger scores any winger could score. In any other aspect of his game he has been found wanting, not just at Wigan but at Castleford and even Widnes fans have criticised his defence in NL1.

If he was rated by Maguire then I am sure he would have got more than 1 game this season. The mere fact that Goulding, a centre, has been picked on the wing before him for vast chunks of the season, speaks volumes. Even Pryce got an extended run in the side to see what he could do. If Ainscough is so clearly SL standard then he would have played more than 1 SL game this season before getting dropped. Castleford would have also taken him back, as was originally meant to be a season long deal, and they were still short of players. Players that are rated by other SL clubs can always get loan deals at SL clubs, as previous players have shown but it seems that only NL1 clubs wanted Ainscough. Indeed why do Hull KR want Charnley, an unproven SL player, instead of Ainscough? Surely the mere fact that many people think that Ainscough has not really proven anything, has not shown himself yet to be SL standard (not just on this thread but others) means that he is not clearly anything?

Hope he goes well for us, we definetly need someone who'll do a good job. Would have prefered Marsh if that was possible though

DaveO & thepriestman85, how many times have you seen Charnley play?

I would have preferred Carmont but never mind

It looks like opinion is split on the kid, I'd be surprised to see him feature this week with such a short turnaround. A debut in the Hull derby though? What a baptism that would be.

Does he play on the left or right naturally?

I can defiantly see how this is going….

Not that it matters at all in any way shape or form but I’ve seen him play about 5 times.

Here are some questions for you;

How many times have you seen him play in SL? What are his SL stats like when you compare them to Colbon’s?

How many SL tries has he scored? How many SL tackles has he broken? What’s his positional play like at SL level when he’s got guys like Dobson who can land a ball on a 50p? His positional play at academy level is fantastic but is it going to be exploited by international wingers like King or Donald? What’s his defence like against fully fledged MEN like Hall or King? How does his fitness and strength stand up to the SL level? What’s his mental toughness like when he’s been outplayed by some quality players?

We can all guess at these answers BUT until he actually plays some SL rugby you can’t compare the two. At this moment in time there is a massive difference in someone like Colbon who has played in big games & proven himself against great players and Charnley who hasn’t played any SL rugby.

Surly you can see how daft your statement was?

Oh and don’t try and turn this into an anti Charnley rant as no one is saying he doesn’t have the potential to be a class winger but there is a massive difference in having potential and converting it into actual results.

As Charnley has never played at Superleague level that is a stupid question.

However I have seen, Colbon, Ainscough and Charnley at academy level, and I stand by my statement that Charnley has been the best of the three.

What a player does or the potential he shows at the academy level means very little if he can’t transfer that into SL. Just look at Luke Robinson or Matty Smith for perfect examples.

On the one side you’ve got a PROVEN SL player in Colbon and on the other you’ve got Charnley who has potential but hasn’t played any SL rugby yet. How can you say Charnley is better?

Aren't Robinson and Smith Superleague players?
Robinson is the same age as Colbon but has played over twice the number of games.

I like Colbon and was one of the few who would have liked to keep him at Wigan due to his versatility.

Exactly. I can back you up on that. Attitude is better than Ainscough. Has more brains that Ainscough. Maybe a bit less pace but a better overall player in my view. I'm in total agreement from what I've seen at academy level. Good luck to him, Hull KR is a good move I think for a month and their next three games are on Sky Sports which is good for us to see him in action.

I was using them as perfect examples of players who haven't lived up to the potential and hype they got from their accademy performances. Who is to say Charnley won't go the same way?



Look I don't know if you are being difficult on purpose but let’s just cut to the chase here do you honestly think Charnley is currently a better player than Colbon? This isn’t about having the potential to be as well. If the answer is yes I’d love to know what you are basing It on as academy games vs SL ones mean zip.

No one knows. But the sport and our club wasted academy players for fun in Luke Robinson's era. It's less likely to happen now with dual-registration giving players opportunities. Just look at Liam Farrell and Chris Tuson - both have benefitted dramatically by going away this year.