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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Dave I'm not sure if anyone has ever told you but generally you attack for 50% of the game and defend for 50% of the game.

While Pryce has been defending on the wing nothing has come down that side of the field. Pryce went off, and guess what, we leak a try.

Go figure.'"

That is a typical Rogues post. Was he the only reason we conceded that try?

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Quote: Legend That Sorts It "get real mate, he was playing against a young small winger in foster its not as if it was vainakolo he was knocking over, hes e'"


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Quote: jonh "Finds his front every drive and takes 2 to 3 players with him.

His pass to Crmont against Hudds was sublime as was his pass today, although nothing came of it.

No other winger at the club would have scored the try he did today on the stroke of half time.

His defence was outstanding, but he was caught out of position once when Foster dropped it with a walk in.

If we are looking to be critical look to Roberts today (who should not be picked) rather than fire cheap shots at a player who went well today.'"

we wait 3 years for a good pass against hudds wow

he was playing against a young lad in foster not vainakolo

hes a winger he cant be blamed for tries outside of him unless he misses a clear tackle, its your inside you want to push out,

but tell me when pryce gets the ball do you ever think well yeah he could do some magic here and score a super try, alla roberts

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sorry but he is useless, on the try where he popped the pass out, if he had two feet he would have stepped inside and scored he hasn't and he didn't get rid now.

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is it true mate, pretty reply off you

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Quote: Legend That Sorts It "we wait 3 years for a good pass against hudds wow

he was playing against a young lad in foster not vainakolo

hes a winger he cant be blamed for tries outside of him unless he misses a clear tackle, its your inside you want to push out,

but tell me when pryce gets the ball do you ever think well yeah he could do some magic here and score a super try, alla roberts'"


Firstly if you rate Vainakolo as a defensive player we cannot agree.

I care not if he scores super tries, does he need to?

What he needs to do is take the chances he is offered and stop the opposition which he is doing.

He gets a quick play the ball involves 2 or 3 players in the tackle and takes his chances.

I wonder what era people think we are in when a player is scoring over a try a game and not letting them in and is still slated.

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His overall game today was better than both Roberts and Richards in my opinion. Just because he doesnt run past all 13 players twice and score from 90 yards out doesn't mean he's a bad player, he performs his role in the team well. If he's fit for next week, i'd definitely play him.

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if your talking about quick play the balls there is nothing wrong with goulding, it took pryce 15 minutes to come in for his first touch of the ball, yes you look for your quick wingers to score a great try, goulding also is also good from 10 metres and has come on leaps and bounds in his defence, it was laughable today when he got injured, if you watch it back they attck his side, tomkins tries everything in his power to stop flannery and pryce just watched, that pretty much sums him up

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Quote: Legend That Sorts It "if your talking about quick play the balls there is nothing wrong with goulding, it took pryce 15 minutes to come in for his first touch of the ball, yes you look for your quick wingers to score a great try, goulding also is also good from 10 metres and has come on leaps and bounds in his defence, it was laughable today when he got injured, if you watch it back they attck his side, tomkins tries everything in his power to stop flannery and pryce just watched, that pretty much sums him up'"


Goulding has still struggled in defence positionally, he also has a poorer return/game.

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Quote: jonh "Finds his front every drive and takes 2 to 3 players with him.'"


Where to?

Quote: jonh "His pass to Crmont against Hudds was sublime as was his pass today, although nothing came of it'"
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Great pass, should have scored himself beforehand.

Quote: jonh "No other winger at the club would have scored the try he did today on the stroke of half time.
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Richards would have.

Quote: jonh "His defence was outstanding, but he was caught out of position once when Foster dropped it with a walk in.

If we are looking to be critical look to Roberts today (who should not be picked) rather than fire cheap shots at a player who went well today.'"


I am not firing cheap shots at Pryce. He can't break a tackle to save his life when running the ball out of defence and he's huge. What's the problem with him here? Calderwood probably made more meters doing that than Pryce does.

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Quote: juicyjulie "sorry but he is useless, on the try where he popped the pass out, if he had two feet he would have stepped inside and scored he hasn't and he didn't get rid now.'"


Some of the comments on here are almost beyond belief!!
He might not be Billy Whizz or Brett D, BUT The guy has scored ELEVEN tries in SEVEN games!
FFS!!!! What more do you want a winger to do?
Less than a season ago, i bet you were the same people that were whinging about our wingers never getting a look in.
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Quote: Legend That Sorts It "im getting sick of hearing the same thing and telling people the same thing about this useless player, he offers nothing, he does nothing, he doesnt look part of the team, everyone has told me to give him a chance, yeah he deserves a chance but for me a player who gets the first little strain or injury hes straight off the field, lets be honest he doesnt wanna be out there when it gets rough and tough. ok hes scored i dunno say 10 tries in 8 games or whatever it is, so did ainscough but look at where he is, in the same place pryce should be in the reserves'"


Utter boll[io[/icks that. In fact, are you Darrell Gouldings best mate or something? I honestly can't see how someone who watches the game, can come up with that crap.

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Quote: DaveO "Where to?

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Great pass, should have scored himself beforehand.

Richards would have.

I am not firing cheap shots at Pryce. He can't break a tackle to save his life when running the ball out of defence and he's huge. What's the problem with him here? Calderwood probably made more meters doing that than Pryce does.

Dave'"


Your initial quote shows how out of touch you are with the game.

If you take 2 or 3 players to the floor you do damage every time.

Why do people hold his size against him?

He generates yards, takes players to the floor finishes his chances and lets few in.

If you expect another Jonah Lomu its not going to happen. I'll let you into a secret professional players can defend these days.

His strike rate is immense, his defence is good, what more do you want?

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Quote: jonh "Your initial quote shows how out of touch you are with the game.

If you take 2 or 3 players to the floor you do damage every time.

Why do people hold his size against him?

He generates yards, takes players to the floor finishes his chances and lets few in.

If you expect another Jonah Lomu its not going to happen. I'll let you into a secret professional players can defend these days.

His strike rate is immense, his defence is good, what more do you want?'"


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Absolutely spot on.

I have no idea what the hell people expect these days. He makes decent metres, and is taking 2 or 3 people to cover him. His defence is solid, and his strike rate is excellent. He also brings the ability to score trys that no other winger at the club could score, like the one today. In addition he has great technical skills, as evidenced by the flick pass to Carmont (in a lot of other games that would have resulted in a certain try).

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Quote: jonh "Your initial quote shows how out of touch you are with the game.

If you take 2 or 3 players to the floor you do damage every time.

Why do people hold his size against him?

He generates yards, takes players to the floor finishes his chances and lets few in.

If you expect another Jonah Lomu its not going to happen. I'll let you into a secret professional players can defend these days.

His strike rate is immense, his defence is good, what more do you want?'"


Better than what I see. I can't actually believe you think he is that good given you profess to be (I believe) a student of the game.

Dave

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