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| I think eventually he will become the regular centre at the club, but for now filling in on the wing when needed will do him the world of good. Some people don't seem to rate him, but in all honesty he's probably one of the best young centres in the country, and with the reduction of overseas players in the next few years it's likely that all clubs will end up with a homegrown centre, and I'd take a guess that Goulding will be one of the better ones.
For now, he's in good form, so whether he keeps his place for the Saints game or not he's still likely to feature quite a bit this season.
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| Quote: Cherry.Pie "I think eventually he will become the regular centre at the club, but for now filling in on the wing when needed will do him the world of good. Some people don't seem to rate him, but in all honesty he's probably one of the best young centres in the country, and with the reduction of overseas players in the next few years it's likely that all clubs will end up with a homegrown centre, and I'd take a guess that Goulding will be one of the better ones.
For now, he's in good form, so whether he keeps his place for the Saints game or not he's still likely to feature quite a bit this season.'"
Not sure about him at centre but if he does have a great season this year, he'll be eyeing up George Carmont's shirt next year for sure. I think we have a better (albeit younger) centre in Stefan Marsh, playing in the Under 20s.
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| Quote: Bilko "Not sure about him at centre but if he does have a great season this year, he'll be eyeing up George Carmont's shirt next year for sure. I think we have a better (albeit younger) centre in Stefan Marsh, playing in the Under 20s.'"
Agreed, and Thornley, too must be in the frame for the future.
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| Quote: ABP' "Fair play for Goulding.
He had a hard time particularily last season but he's worked hard, earned his place and come up with good performances.
I think there should be more focus on Phelps earning his place back opposed Goulding jusitying his place & I think Goulding should continue to start next week with Roberts staying at FB.'"
Dependant on Sams fitness for Friday Phelps may get a run at 6 if he's fit.
I suppose thats the good thing with Phelps. He can play a few positions so he's never going to go short of a position. He's obviously our best fullback so he'll continue there in the long run but it's nice to have the option of shifitng him into other spots when needs be.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Dependant on Sams fitness for Friday Phelps may get a run at 6 if he's fit.
I suppose thats the good thing with Phelps. He can play a few positions so he's never going to go short of a position. He's obviously our best fullback so he'll continue there in the long run but it's nice to have the option of shifitng him into other spots when needs be.'"
Obviously,why ?, what has he done to say he is better at fullback than Roberts ?, arguably our best player this season so far.
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| Its great to have two players in Amos and Phelps who can both play fullback to a extremely high standard. I think we look better as a team with Phelps at the back and Roberts on the wing, our play looks alot more structured with more options as Phelps is a better ball handler imo. Roberts has fantastic feet and is an athlete but he's more off the cuff and i think we can still get the best from him out on the wing.
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| Quote: DP_wwrlfc "Its great to have two players in Amos and Phelps who can both play fullback to a extremely high standard. I think we look better as a team with Phelps at the back and Roberts on the wing, our play looks alot more structured with more options as Phelps is a better ball handler imo. Roberts has fantastic feet and is an athlete but he's more off the cuff and i think we can still get the best from him out on the wing.'"
But with Goulding playing so well on the wing ( and we are told MM will pick players in form ), why move Amos out to the wing and reduce his effectiveness ?.
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| Quote: twosevenzero "But with Goulding playing so well on the wing ( and we are told MM will pick players in form ), why move Amos out to the wing and reduce his effectiveness ?.'"
I understand were your coming from for sure i just think it benefits the team as a whole with Phelps at the back. We look slicker with him getting involved/chiming into the line. Plus in an interview after the Cas match Madge said they had practised in training with Amos getting involved in the middle even though he was going to be out on the wing before Phelps injury. Also i think alot of Roberts skills can be used out wide and he'll still be running the ball back at times if he is playing on the wing.
Regards Goulding its a tough call, he has played brilliantly but like i said for the good of the team imo Phelps has to go back at fullback and we cant drop Amos he's been a different class this year wherever he's played. I may be tempted to play him at centre though to reward him for his performances. But again it would be a brave decision to drop Carmont, either way Madge has got a few big decisions to make but atleast he has the options which is always a good thing
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| Goulding has played well at wing and centre this season, his first try against Hull was a great individual effort, and he rescued what could have been a Leeds scrum on the 20 and turned it into a goal line dropout that led to a try last night. I feel that if Phelps returns against Saints, it could be Gleeson or Carmont who makes way.
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| Quote: V For Vendetta "Goulding has played well at wing and centre this season, his first try against Hull was a great individual effort, and he rescued what could have been a Leeds scrum on the 20 and turned it into a goal line dropout that led to a try last night. I feel that if Phelps returns against Saints, it could be Gleeson or Carmont who makes way.'"
Why would Gleeson make way? He was outstanding last night. Had Senior in his pocket all night.
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| It's tough at the moment selection wise when everybody is fit. I thought Gleeson to was very good last night, particularly in defence keeping Keef tied up.
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| I hope we keep him..every team needs players like Goulding you will never have worries if hes the replacement for a injury. pole position to take Carmonts shirt next season IMO
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| I'm glad to see he is proving all those who said he 'wasn't good enough' and 'doesn't deserve to wear the Wigan shirt' wrong.
Keep it up Daz.
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| Quote: ABP' "Fair play for Goulding.
He had a hard time particularily last season but he's worked hard, earned his place and come up with good performances.
I think there should be more focus on Phelps earning his place back opposed Goulding jusitying his place & I think Goulding should continue to start next week with Roberts staying at FB.'"
I agree, competition for places is the key to maintaining top performances, players must know that their place is under threat if they dont reach the levels MM wants, but, if like Goulding has done in his last 2 games, you perform really well, score the tries when chances arise, defend solidly, and then get 'dropped', what message does that give out to him, during the season all players will have dips in 'form', but IMO, Goulding has earned a starting place.
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| So Phelps also hasn't earned his place in the squad?
Phelps is the best full back at Wigan. He's more structured than Amos and he's got a better rugby brain as well. It's no coincidence that Lockers was, in phelps absence, filling in the link up role on Friday and not Amos. Amos can't put in a pass like Phelps does or Lockers did on Friday.
It's not taking anything away from Roberts but his best position is wing and we've gotta find ways for him to come in field more but also we've gotta make sure Phelps still creating space for hid wing men.
Goulding sadly isn't as good as either Phelps or Amos and when you go to Saints with a prize as big as winning the last GF derby game at Knowsley Hole you needed all your aces on the pitch. Big games call for big players.
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