Get rid of him.

Problem is, it's our wingers scoring all the tries, which means they're mostly out wide. We need to go back to the "up-the-middle" stuff, so that what few tries we score are easier conversions...


(or, of course, keep scoring enough tries that the goals don't matter...)

Yeah, give him the boot.

Shoe him out? That's a slippery idea. You reckon he's clogging up the side?

Some of his misses were from eminently kickable positions. His style needs to change. He seems to be putting far too much power into his kicks at the expense of a more careful aim. Plus his kicks seems to be curving more compared to when he was at his most succesful period when the kicks were more arrowlike.

Yeah, he has no sole.

After Pat we have these choices:

Roberts, Phelps, Riddell, Deacon and even Leuluai.

Take your pick.

Riddell. If we are to miss the goals at least he can entertain the crowd while he does so..........

Has piggy ever kicked a goal for us?

It's one thing I really wanna see him do & the piggy jiggy on good Friday as well of course

He did at Barrow last season.

And I thought he was top of the goal kicking charts

Aye. He's a victim of his own success in many ways but stats don't lie.......

2007 82.3% Success
2008 80.1% Success
2009 69.3% Success
2010 71.4% Success

But it's not a major concern for me when put in perspective.

Hull - Kicked 29 - Missed 2 (93.5% Success) - Total Attempts 31
Hull KR - Kicked 19 - Missed 4 (82.6% Success) - Total Attempts 23
Crusaders - Kicked 19 - Missed 4 (82.6% Success) - Total Attempts 23
St Helens - Kicked 31 - Missed 8 (79.4% Success) - Total Attempts 39
Salford - Kicked 11 - Missed 4 (73.3% Success) - Total Attempts 15
Leeds - Kicked 24 - Missed 9 (72.7% Success) - Total Attempts 33
Wakefield- Kicked 24 - Missed 9 (72.7% Success) - Total Attempts 33
Wigan - Kicked 35 - Missed 14 (71.4% Success) - Total Attempts 49
Huddersfield - Kicked 24 - Missed 12 (66.6% Success) - Total Attempts 36
Castleford - Kicked 19 - Missed 11 (63.6% Success) - Total Attempts 30
Warrington - Kicked 26 - Missed 16 (61.9% Success) - Total Attempts 42
Harlequins - Kicked 9 - Missed 6 (60% Success) - Total Attempts 15
Bradford - Kicked 12 - Missed 10 (54.5% Success) - Total Attempts 22
Catalans - Kicked 7 - Missed 11 (38.8% Success) - Total Attempts 18

Not the best but it's not amongst the worst. He's having a lot more attempts.

And the only game we have lost was to a goalkick by the second worst kickers in Superleague.

he s done 1 at home as well lined it up for about 10 mins did his superman arm then missed by a million miles

TBF a lot of it is down to practice. If your not regulary then it has a massive effect on your talents

Take Furner for example I'm sure he was a top notch kicker in the NRL wasn't he but he wasn't that good when he had 2 stand in for Faz.

Back to the topic Pat does need to improve his consistency but it's not a major worry at the moment. He'll have a good day on Friday as he always does after a bad week