In a way I agree, I certainly think it'll be the last time this year that we switch off regardless of the score.

No doubt McGuire and Wane will have learn't a whole lot from tonight's performance.

The of us coming back in the car said exactly the same.

We look a good side and one terrible half of rugby won't change that. We've had a bad attitude and a slack mentality embedded in this club for years and it's been proved tonight that it's going to take Maguire and Wane more then 4 months to totally change that round.This can hopefully work as a wake up call to the players that they have to fight and scrap for everything in this game because they are nowhere near good enough to be playing at 20%.

I'd imagined they'll have taken an absolute bol*ocking tonight and rightfully so. As long as they take it on the chin and make sure they don't get complacent like that again we'll have taken plenty from that defeat.

My thought's exactly. We'll be stronger for it.

I don't think a defeat is ever 'good' for you, but I get your drift.

Realistically, this is the kind of result that fans of all sides should be getting themselves prepared for over the season.....Without wishing to come over all Eddie-like, this season promises to be very close, with most sides being closely matched.

As a Wire fan, I obviously wanted to see you come unstuck at some point, but I think its apparent that even from tonight's display, you Wiganers will certainly pose a threat to many teams over this season.

The only thing that would worry me about your performance tonight, was the way your forwards seemed to finish their shift a little early, obviously believing, at 20 points up, that you had done enough.... I still have my doubts about the likes of Fielden & Coley, and tonight didn't change that opinion.

McGuire's pretty much echoing what were all thinking, we built are selves a good lead yet through complacency let it slip.

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I feel sick.

We played so well in the first half but Orford showed what a class player he is tonight and exposed us.

On the positive i thought Eamon O'Carrol was immense tonight, he showed up big time and made some strong drives with the ball.

Credit to Bradford but we need to get a lot smarter.

Orford pulled our pants down but in reality we shouldn't have let him.

We worked our knackers off in the first half and closed down him and his runners space but in the 2nd half looked like a normal early season Wigan side and let Bradford take the game to us. We stood off in defence and didn't cover runners and in attack we looked lethargic and didn't support the man with the ball.

I expect that very poor 2nd half preformence to be put behind us next week win or lose. I can stand for losing aslong as the effort is there and unfortunatly it wasn't in that 2nd half tonight.

No it wouldn't. That's just a cliché. You can learn form your mistakes but it's better not to make needless ones on this scale.

My concern is with a big game coming up V Hull it will have boosted their confidence no end and done ours no good at all. After all chucking away a 20-0 half time lead and conceding 22 unanswered points is a pretty appalling performance.

Dave

This is a real test for MM & SW.
How they get the team prepared for and how they play v Hull will show us the calibre of our new coaching staff.
If ever the team and the coaching staff need to realise it's an 80 minute game then it's now.
I'm sure they will have a lot to say and do this coming week.

They'll have us right for next week i'm sure.

It still may not actually be enough because Hull look a good side but we won't get complacent like tonight at any point and thats all you can ask for really.

Over confidence was clearly a big factor, 78-0 we were up after 1.5 games, the players god carried away and it cost them.

Im not bothered as such that we lost, that was always going to happen, its the manner of the defeat thats left me deflated.

We need to respond on Friday so that the excellent start we made isnt lost.

Starting at half time at Wire to half time last night we had scored 96 points and conceded 4 in the last 2 games!!!! No wonder we got complacent!!!!

No.

The real test will come at the end of the season and can they take you one step further than noble could.

I think we will be in the mix, too early to tell.

Maybe a few astute signings from Maguire in the next couple of seasons together with our youngsters coming through may take us to new heights.

I'm certainly hopeful.

I was chatting to some Wigan fans at h/t who said we'll go unbeaten this year. i told them at the time it was bollox and i hope all who ran theyre mouths on here and them enjoy the slap down, its the first of a few.