Fieldens Wigan preformences have always been decent by anybodys standards but not the best by his own.

He's not been worth the money we paid for him but that doesn't make him a bad player. To say Coley had no help from a guy who had very similar stats to himself is silly.

Fielden and Coley are coming up with the goods at the moment and look well placed for new deals.

Fielden was bobbins last year, crumpled in tackles like he was made of biscuit. This year he looks way better, although still not the player he was when we signed him, never will be.

I said 1-2 week ago that Fielden on a realistic wage is a plus for any side.I'm hoping both coley and Stu get new deals at wigan

Well for a lad who crumpled in tackles like he was made of biscuit, he still made more metres than Coley off 1 less carry, made 2.5 times the tackle busts, and put in more work defensively.

But yeah he was bobbins

I think what he's trying to say is that although Coley has been quality of late he's never going to be in that elite bracket of props like Peacock, Graham, Morley and the ‘old’ Stuart Fielden.

Lets not beat around the bush Coley was brought in to do a job as the number 2 prop behind an all singing all dancing ‘worlds best prop’ in Fielden. It’s a role the likes of Carvel and Leuluai fill at their respective clubs and one which there is no shame in doing as not everyone can get in to that elite bracket.

Carvel and Leuluai, imo, aren’t as good as Andy Coley but they certainly get a lot more respect from other fans and hype in the media as their jobs are made a lot easier as they’ve got the likes of Peacock and Morley in front of them putting in equal or better shifts at the coal face. Coley hasn’t had this and he’s been forced in many instances to try and do the go forward of two people.

Maybe some go over the top with their criticism of Fielden and maybe in some instances he deserves it but all I know is that he’s no longer in that top bracket of props which he used to be in and it makes Coley’s, Fekas and Prescott’s job a lot harder.

Fielden was the best prop on the Park last night, absolutely superb. He beat the first man time and time again, landed face down and got the quick play the ball.

I am waiting for Bilkos stats for he game.

I would say Coley did a better job for you IMHO.

He's been our most consistant prop for the past 12 months, easy. He doesn't do anything spectacular, like Feka with his occasional barnstorming runs, but he's a grafter. He takes the ball in time after time, and works hard in defence. It's similar with Fielden too though, he'd take it in all day and play for 80 mins if we let him. Just because he doesn't stand out as much as he used to, doesn't mean that he isn't playing well.

Bailey was absolutely doing my head in last night. He was constantly lying on in the tackle!

I actually thought Solomona was the best prop on the park last night. Watching the replay this morning confirmed what I thought during the game that we just couldn’t contain him. His strong runs and offloads were ripping us to pieces at times and he had a danger about him that none of the other props had.

Maybe he didn’t do the shift Coley, Morley or Stu did but he more than made up for it in attack.

If I was a Wire corporate sponsor I would defo have picked him over Harrison for MOM.

Just as a side note what's your opinion on Coley's future at Wigan next season?

Mate you can continue to believe and think whatever you like, I prefer to use both my eyes and statistical analysis (to try and temper that I maybe being biased or emotional about what i'm seeing). Talk to any modern coach about whether statistical analysis is a valuable tool in sports performance.

You are Alex Murphy and I claim my £5

He did make more busts than Morley, he just made 0.74 less metres per carry and 30 less carries, which is why both statistically and to your eyes Morley had better go forward. My comparison was however nothing to do with Morley, it was about your view that Fielden was bobbins and made of biscuit, and I compared his performance to Coley (who I didn't see you saying was bobbins and made of biscuit).

Solomona isn't a prop lol. He may have the physique of one though.

Go on then, why would you say he doesn't get picked for England anymore and the fans tend to get on his back?