Fair enough, we'll have to agree to disagree. I think if you were to ask Leeds fans which props of ours would get into their team, I'd suspect they would only take Feka. Even then maybe not as they already have one luxury player in Lauitiiti.

I really don't believe that Fielden has been as poor as so many on here have said.

He's missed six games in three and a half seasons at Wigan, that's pretty durable for any player let alone a prop. I wonder how many other props have put in those games?

It will be interesting to see if the new regime can put that bit of "fight" back in him.

As a few have said we (the speccies) need to get behind each and every player and not look at a every small fault. It's as if some take great delight in a players failure.

I really don't understand all this "clean slate" stuff. Did people used to go to games thinking x,y, or z is sh*t so I'm going to get on his back all game?

Personally each game is a clean slate, I just go to the games to get behind the team and enjoy a game of rugby.

I'll still criticise players on here when I feel it's deserved but I'm not going to have this warped mindset that every one of our players has the ability to become a superstar just because we've got a new coach

Rogues you act like no player has been poor for us, and it's all of us supposed naysayers that are hindering players from performing.

As for him missing only six games that doesn't have any relation to how he's performed on the field, had he perhaps missed large parts of the season through injury then that may have been an excuse for him but that's not been the case. He in fact should have been running on full power with plenty of rhythm built up due to the fact that he's not been stuttering with injury's.

Fielden has quite simply not been to the standard that his wage portrays, however that's not to say I won't give him the benefit of the doubt under a new regime in which to find himself and regain some sort of his past glories.

It seems so it even got to the point of booing players names as they were called out before kick off sometimes , and as substitutions were made .
criticising a player for poor performances over a period of time maybe justified sometimes (im has guilty of it as anybody even, rogues on MH. ) but not to give a player a chance before the season gets going makes no sense to me ,Especially with all the positive things we are hearing around the club at the moment .

It is a massive year for Stuart Fielden this year with his contract up at the end of the year, it will most likely be his final one too. I don't think Stuart Fielden has been [ias bad[/i as perhaps he has been made out to be, but he has deteriorated from the player who arrived all guns blazing at the end of 2006 & 2007 - who used to throw a hissy fit every time he was taken off - to a player who knocks on in silly positions, gets smashed around the park & does not start games anymore. So subsequently, as a professional athlete (who sets high standards for himself) he will come under some flak from supporters. However, some of the stick he has received has been uncalled for from some supporters who practically boo him before he has recieved a pass or cheer when he has come off. Something that has happened to Karl Pryce and Richie Mathers which is absolutely ridiculous from 'supporters'. Some of the abuse (And I mean that) that has been aimed at our own players has been insane.

Stuart Fielden will be on a big salary and money will have played an important part of his decision to leave Bradford mid-way through the season - we should accept that. But I don't think that was his sole motivation. I think the challenge to do something new, be took out of your comfort zone and try to experience a new challenge was another factor in his move to Wigan. Something I think Stuart might have lost and hopefully with a new coaching regime he might find that desire again & challenge - something different. I think numerous factors have contributed to his not poor form, but not to the level he has been in previous years that saw him become a regular for England - for example I think he has lost weight since his arrival here. He doesn't look as big as he was when he first arrived & MaGuire has stressed that certain players need to bulk up as we are the lightest team in Super League. Is it any wonder we have struggled in the forwards due to the poor conditioning?

With the right fitness regime and a new challenging coaching setup I think we can look forward to seeing the 'old Stuart Fielden' that we all remember from his devastating days at Bradford. I agree with other posters that some players should be cut some slack & given a clean slate under a new management and fitness regime.

i agree with this to a certain extent. he got fired up against leeds and took the whole pack on and won. he made peacock look ordinary. we need to bottle that up and feed it to him b4 every game. if wane cant get this out of him no one will.

What? When was that?

1) I have been critical of players. I have not said that Fielden has been superb. What I have said is that he has not been as poor as many have said.
There is a big difference.

2) That is the big problem, people are judging Fielden on his wages, not his performance.

3) Who would you rather have had in your team for the last three years, Stuart Fielden or Jason Cayless, of course durability is a major factor.

Fielden is our best prop in defence.

tbf tho thats only cos feka cant tackle

Fielden has a big year ahead of him, but Im confident with 12 months to go on his contract, not to mention a new coaching set up. We will see a big improvement in Stuart and if the euphoria around the place rubs off on all the other pack members then hopefully we will have a good year.

Fielden has been a great a player in his career, has he been disappointing in the cherry & white. I would have to say yes has anyone else bar Richards, Lockers, Barrett & S. Tomkins been impressive over the past 3 years???? I would have to say Fielden has just dropped down to the level the club has been playing at.

In the days of the cap we have to judge players on value for money, Fielden does not provide value for money.

Getting value for money is crucial. I personally think Fielden is playing the role of the third supporting Prop yet he is paid World Class money, and there in is the problem.