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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I think it would be shame for Quins if LMS left. One of the things that should be happening in RL is to reward clubs for producing their own players.

As you know (or should as I've been banging the drum for five years about it) I believe that any player who comes through a clubs academy system particularly from their own service area should have a percentage of their salary exempt from the "cap" calculation.'"


It's something I’d like to see in RL as it would improve the junior development at most SL clubs. It should have been brought in with the new licensing agreements as it would have worked well with the whole three year plan model imo.

That being said it still won’t keep all the top young like LMS & Myler at their bottom half of the table clubs. Players like Worrincey & Sheriff maybe would have stayed and it would give clubs like Quins and Salford a lot more leverage to keep hold of their average youngsters but their top young stars will still always move to the top teams for the reasons I posted before.

When you look at the success players like Leuluai & Ellis have had after moving to one of the more established teams you can’t blame them really.

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[color=#FF0000:1fnfdzuc]Wigan vs Leeds finals aggregate score. Wigan 178 - 64 Leeds Wigan wins - 6 Leeds wins - 0[/color:1fnfdzuc] I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I am all out of bubblegum. Don't you struggle. Don't you fight. Don't you worry, cause it's your turn tonight! Esse quam videri.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45658.jpg



If true and the Bulls are courting LMS then we've got to have a try ourselves, the guy hasn't matured as quickly as Burgess or Graham but he will over time become a great player. Everybody knows my feelings on LMS as illustrated in my sig, and if it does come down to us or Bradford getting him both offering the same money I feel that's a battle we'd win"no offence to Bradford".

We have to be in it to win it.

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Dont bradford have money from the burgess deal they could use for a tranfer fee ?

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Quote: wigan_knight "Dont bradford have money from the burgess deal they could use for a tranfer fee ?'"


Yeah they've supposedly got £100,000 I believe.

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Quote: LovesToSpooge "Yeah they've supposedly got £100,000 I believe.'"


Bargin really!

I hope we get LMS, he is doing as well as most experienced props, he will only get better as long as they don't play him too much like the ginger guy.

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Quote: LovesToSpooge "Yeah they've supposedly got £100,000 I believe.'"


That what the rumor started from i think. Bradford are a little punch drunk with cash after not having any for a while.

Either way with IL having very close ties with Quins he'll know if Bradford are sniffing around he'll also know

-How much they've offered,
-What he's currently on wages wise

We should in theory be on much stronger negotiating grounds with the previous history IL has with him and the enthusiasm Wane shows.

He's a player we should definatly be looking at when his contract is up at the end of season.

BTW can IL not just offer his quins counter part a transfer fee and then accept it himself and walk away with the dosh? You know Whelan would have done it

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Quote: thepriestman85 "That what the rumor started from i think. Bradford are a little punch drunk with cash after not having any for a while.

Either way with IL having very close ties with Quins he'll know if Bradford are sniffing around he'll also know

-How much they've offered,
-What he's currently on wages wise

We should in theory be on much stronger negotiating grounds with the previous history IL has with him and the enthusiasm Wane shows.

He's a player we should definatly be looking at when his contract is up at the end of season.

BTW can IL not just offer his quins counter part a transfer fee and then accept it himself and walk away with the dosh? You know Whelan would have done it'"


You would hope that Lenegan's ties with Quins would be are advantage over Bradford, either way LMS comes out of contract at the end of next year anyway.

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Quote: LovesToSpooge "You would hope that Lenegan's ties with Quins would be are advantage over Bradford, either way LMS comes out of contract at the end of next year anyway.'"


The only thing Bradford may have is more cap room and they have a couple of ex Quins players there.

Other than that i really don't know why a player wouldn't pick us over Bradford as we seem better in most areas

Training facilities
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If you really had to look at it from and unbiased view point 99% of the time you'd pick Wigan over Bradford imo as we are in a much stronger position.

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Quote: thepriestman85 "The only thing Bradford may have is more cap room and they have a couple of ex Quins players there.

Other than that i really don't know why a player wouldn't pick us over Bradford as we seem better in most areas

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If you really had to look at it from and unbiased view point 99% of the time you'd pick Wigan over Bradford imo as we are in a much stronger position.'"


I'd agree with all of the above"Waiting for irate Bulls fan to turn up".

The only reason that I can see him going to Bradford over us is larger salary and possibly ex-quins player being there, I just hope that if this is more than just a rumour that we actually make a move for him.

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Quote: thepriestman85 "

Either way with IL having very close ties with Quins he'll know if Bradford are sniffing around he'll also know

-How much they've offered,
-What he's currently on wages wise

We should in theory be on much stronger negotiating grounds with the previous history IL has with him and the enthusiasm Wane shows.

BTW can IL not just offer his quins counter part a transfer fee and then accept it himself and walk away with the dosh? You know Whelan would have done it'"


All of the above are reasons/suppositions why I'd be surprised if we bid for LMS at all. As IL has interests in both clubs transferring a player from one to the other would probably be seen in a very dim light by the RFL.

Mind you it never stopped the Hethrington's with Hull and Leeds...

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Quote: DaveO "All of the above are reasons/suppositions why I'd be surprised if we bid for LMS at all. As IL has interests in both clubs transferring a player from one to the other would probably be seen in a very dim light by the RFL.

Mind you it never stopped the Hethrington's with Hull and Leeds...

Dave'"


It's neither Wigan's or IL's problem tho imo. If they RFL approved his takeover of Wigan then it's their problem not ours.

At the end of the day we've as much of a right to bid for anyone as say Bradford have.

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