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| I can see Nobby going for Carmont, Bailey (both out of contract?) from the first team proper and maybe some fringe players like Goulding to help bolster what is pretty much a non existant Celtic squad.
He's got a tough job on next year I think bearing in mind he wont have a great many players of quality to pick from.
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| Quote: No1 Saint "I can see Nobby going for Carmont, Bailey (both out of contract?) from the first team proper and maybe some fringe players like Goulding to help bolster what is pretty much a non existant Celtic squad.
He's got a tough job on next year I think bearing in mind he wont have a great many players of quality to pick from.'"
I think we'll keep Bailey, although i think there are a couple of factors, how bad his injury is and if theres anyone else available.
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| Quote: LovesToSpooge "What is he rumored to be be on Odemwingie?'"
Matt King is on just under 200k apparently. He his the highest payed player in the league.
Fieldens wage is probably split over afew years though, he might be on 250k this year who knows but the amount he is earning every year will not be 250k.
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| Quote: inside_man "He must be on a massive chunk though, highest paid player probably in the league, and yet in the 1st year didnt he take a small wage because we didn't have space, for example.
1st year
I guess he must be on the breadline with those figures
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| I do reckon he'll come in for Fielden and Carmont at sometime; I don't want to lose either though. We all know how good George is, and I honestly believe Fielden can be...Ressurected, so to speak, under Maguire.
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| Not convinced that Fielden and Noble's working relationship is still
good enough for him to follow him again.
Noble will be all too aware that Fielden is done as a top
flight prop too.
I certainly would expect Carmont to depart with him.
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| It has said on wigantoday he is ready to swoop for Carmont and offer him the 2 year deal he wants
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| According to the Express Harrison Hansen was disappointed to see Noble go.
Useful player but if it freed up enough cap space to bring in a bit of quality might be worth considering
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| Quote: Odemwingie "Fielden is not on 250k.'"
I've read the Salary cap rules a few times now and from every thing i can see they don't need to be able to pay his current salary at all.
From my reading of the rules the only stumbling block in getting rid of a player is whatever termination fee is agreed.
The termination fee counts on the salary cap of the selling club, usually on a pro-rata basis over the remaining term of the contract.
so lets say a player has 2 years left on his contract, and agrees a £50,000 termination fee, then £25,000 for the next 2 years still counts on the salary cap of the club terminating the contract.
I'll try and look further to see if there are any specific exclusions for 'transfers' but i'm sure a player could always have his contract just terminated if there are clauses in his contract to agree termination, and a suitable termination fee can be agreed between club and player.
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| Quote: Steve Ella's Beard "I've read the Salary cap rules a few times now and from every thing i can see they don't need to be able to pay his current salary at all.
From my reading of the rules the only stumbling block in getting rid of a player is whatever termination fee is agreed.
The termination fee counts on the salary cap of the selling club, usually on a pro-rata basis over the remaining term of the contract.
so lets say a player has 2 years left on his contract, and agrees a £50,000 termination fee, then £25,000 for the next 2 years still counts on the salary cap of the club terminating the contract.
I'll try and look further to see if there are any specific exclusions for 'transfers' but i'm sure a player could always have his contract just terminated if there are clauses in his contract to agree termination, and a suitable termination fee can be agreed between club and player.'"
surely the termination fee would be remaining wages tho as thats the contract that was originally signed? player could sue if didnt get that?
fwiw, my source says bailey is highest paid player at club.
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| Quote: pk "surely the termination fee would be remaining wages tho as thats the contract that was originally signed? player could sue if didnt get that?
fwiw, my source says bailey is highest paid player at club.'"
You would logically think so, but the rules exclude that specifically.
The termination fee is whatever has been mutually agreed between player and club, via an agreement form submitted to the RFL.
It does not need to be related to his actual salary.
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| Quote: Odemwingie "Matt King is on just under 200k apparently. He his the highest payed player in the league.
Fieldens wage is probably split over afew years though, he might be on 250k this year who knows but the amount he is earning every year will not be 250k.'"
For the gazillionth time; Matt King is not the highest earner at Warrington, never mind SL. The highest earner at Warrington isn't earning close to £200k.
Odemwingie, your info is way off.
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| Quote: getdownmonkeyman "For the gazillionth time; Matt King is not the highest earner at Warrington, never mind SL. The highest earner at Warrington isn't earning close to £200k.
Odemwingie, your info is way off.'"
At the end of the day we'll never know the real facts of any players wages.
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a) His submitted salary cap value (Appendix 3 of section E1 Super League Salary Cap Regulations, RFL Operational Rules)
b) The amount he actually receives in payments - this can be more or less than a) and will quite often be, and be perfectly legitimate and within the rules
c) The total amount he actually gets over the term of his contract, now this should be the same as b) but depending on a clubs accounting prowess and willingness to take risks in the grey areas may not be
d) Any 'brown envelope' scenarios - of course this last point is completely hypothetical and there is no evidence that this is what any club is doing.
I'm am also in no way saying that Warrington or any other named club is doing C either.
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| Quote: pk "fwiw, my source says bailey is highest paid player at club.'"
Scary. I can't remember where I have posted this but I have heard the same thing.
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| Quote: cadoo "Scary. I can't remember where I have posted this but I have heard the same thing.'"
It could actually be a blessing if he had been, with his previous contract now having expired, freeing up some cap space.
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