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| Quote: Bilko "I still think Danny Brough would be the ideal 7 to Sam Tomkins at 6 (or the other way round). He's not "top quality" but he has all the skills required in the kicking department and would be the perfect foil for Sam. Stick Leuluai in at 9 and I think the balance is much better.'"
Great call
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| Quote: Bilko "
Some scrum half still remains a must for me. '"
What about bringing Joe Mellor up from the reserves this season? Very impressed with what I've seen of him.
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| Quote: Bilko "Whilst I agree 12 losses is far too many and 6th was a very poor regular season, compared to previous seasons regular hammerings were not seen and that was an improvement. Most of the losses were close apart from Huddersfield in Round 27 when we had nothing to play for.
So we at least move forward in that regard but now we need to turn narrow defeats into wins and 2 signings is probably about right but I'm not sure they have to be "top quality". We just need a couple of players who will graft a good job.
Some scrum half still remains a must for me. Leuluai is useful with ball in hand but his kicking game is very limited. Doing reports every week I've remarked time and time again that our tactical kicking game was poor and that was the difference in my view between 6th and the top 4 in the regular season and possibly the difference between a narrow semi final loss and a Grand Final in the play offs.
I still think Danny Brough would be the ideal 7 to Sam Tomkins at 6 (or the other way round). He's not "top quality" but he has all the skills required in the kicking department and would be the perfect foil for Sam. Stick Leuluai in at 9 and I think the balance is much better.'"
I don't know how easy it would be, but I think we need to find some way to get rid of Riddell.
I view him as the worst signing we've made in recent times. Not a complete and total disaster, but he was average at best last season, and now that we have TL and Mikey Mac, I see no reason to keep him. Of course, once a player's on contract, it's never easy.
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| Couldn't agree more. Pretty much what I and a few others have been saying. Wire at the minute seem more ambitious than us but if we were to pull off the signing of someone of the calibre of Graham then it would show we are going in the right direction.
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| Quote: Jimmy Birts Lives On "What about bringing Joe Mellor up from the reserves this season? Very impressed with what I've seen of him.'"
Too young I would suggest. He only turns 19 next month and thus I think two rookie half backs would be a big gamble. If Sam still wasn't learning then maybe but I'd give Joe another year in the lower grades before looking at him.
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| I agree with Offiah.
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| Quote: Cruncher "I don't know how easy it would be, but I think we need to find some way to get rid of Riddell.
I view him as the worst signing we've made in recent times. Not a complete and total disaster, but he was average at best last season, and now that we have TL and Mikey Mac, I see no reason to keep him. Of course, once a player's on contract, it's never easy.'"
I think some fans could be eating their words re Piggy and Roberts, maybe they have been gash due to several reasons, The change in culture, arriving in wet and windy northern England and putting up with the gash weather through winter/spring and most of summer, training and playing to an out of date 2001 Bradford Bulls style set up, maybe just maybe, they will come good when they get back to training by the modern up to date aussie style of coaching.
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| Quote: Cruncher "I don't know how easy it would be, but I think we need to find some way to get rid of Riddell.
I view him as the worst signing we've made in recent times. Not a complete and total disaster, but he was average at best last season, and now that we have TL and Mikey Mac, I see no reason to keep him. Of course, once a player's on contract, it's never easy.'"
Has he got two years left on his deal?
As harsh as it may seem the best option maybe to send Mcilorum out on a full season loan to one of the bottom clubs and then try to work Riddell out of his last years contract.
I’d like to see Brough at Wigan with Sam.
Shame we didn’t sign Dobbo instead of Smith when both were available as imagine Tomkins and Dobbo as our HB combo.
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| Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "I agree with Offiah.'"
He is spot on. Value signings are all well and good, but at some point, you need to spend on a top quality player who will make the difference, I would hate to think we are paying Riddell & Roberts that kind of money.
We will win nothing with the squad we have.
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| Well I'd like a couple of quality signings and along with most other people it would be a half back and a prop but I still can't take Offiah's article seriously.
His position is it wasn't the coaches fault but the lack of quality players. How about a bit of both? And how about the coach not getting some of our players to deliver the quality many consider them capable of? Lack of conditioning and so on?
It's been done to death on here and most people do not think IMO that just two players alone would make all the difference in the same way they don't think "get us fit and we will be champions" because while these things may get us to the top four unless the other issues are addressed with the rest of the squad we still won't be realising the potential of the team.
Still what else would expect form a players agent?
Is he the only players agent who is regularly commenting in the press? I can't recall any others and if so he needs to realise when he talks about any clubs recruitment as he is an agent people will think he has an agenda.
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| Offiah is correct. IMO and ive said it on another thread that we are 2/3 signings short of a really good title contending team
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| He might be an agent, but you've got to agree with him. We've got a team full of grafters, but way short on quality (and in some cases, fitness). We need a scrum half, forward or two and a centre/wing who can turn a game. Don't forget that losing Hock is a huge blow for next season too...
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| Quote: Madderzahatter "He might be an agent, but you've got to agree with him. We've got a team full of grafters, but way short on quality (and in some cases, fitness). We need a scrum half, forward or two and a centre/wing who can turn a game. Don't forget that losing Hock is a huge blow for next season too...'"
Imo we’ve got the game changing centre already in Gleeson. We all know what he can do with space and quick ball but rarely does he get it imo. The problem is after being coached by Cullen, Lowes and then Noble he’s majorly out of form and low on confidence.
We can all see we need that extra prop and I haven’t seen one person say that it isn’t what we need either…………the first thing the majority agrees on it seems.
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| Quote: AJ "He is spot on. Value signings are all well and good, but at some point, you need to spend on a top quality player who will make the difference, I would hate to think we are paying Riddell & Roberts that kind of money.
We will win nothing with the squad we have.'"
Thats the worry i have with Wigan, are we paying Coley what Leeds are paying Peacock? Riddell what Buderus is on (i knows he missed most the year) etc etc. Fielden is on stupid money and id expect we will get 2 players and money spare for what hes on.
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