You mean like you have with Cullen?

A bit of perspective - i.e. looking beyond the 'I Hate Wigan' poster on your bedroom wall - sometimes helps.

I suspect this is the case.

I hope you're wrong but suspect you will be right and something I and a few others have said for a long time. I can't be bothered going into the details because quite frankly I have becmone bored of repeating myself. That other Noble thread on here is a perfect example. Tiresome. I don't why people can't just agree to disagree.

With regards next year, I have resigned to us losing Noble and him being replaced with a man with little or no experience of coaching first team rugby. It is a gamble that can go either way. only time will tell.

Or how bad?

And I am now going to follow your lead and remove myself from said Thread!

You are absolutley spot on!

Unless we get someone who does have experience of coaching first team rugby. In which case he's absolutely spot off.

So replacing him with someone who has 1st team coaching experience "Guarantees" we will do things better and be more successfull?

I was actually saying it was "spot on" that we may regret pushing out a Top SL coach and thinking automatically that the Grass will be Greener.
This is something the Anti Noble Brigade seem to think will definatley improve just because we have got rid of him, How do we know things will improve.

Anyway, another example of someone trying to give Noble a Bit of Credit and someone trying to discredit him.

As I sadi before Cruncher your asseements are usualyy pretty fair and I don't want go get into a slanging Match but I will say this.

Whoever the New coach will be?
Whether he has or hasn't got 1st team coaching experience/

It doesn't mean we will automatically be more successfull! The complete opposite could be true and we could regret letting BN go.

Who's to say BN couldn't win us a number of trophies over the next 2/3 years?

One thing is for sure, if the new man does come in and wins things in some part he will have BN to Thanks for a lot of the groundwork he has doen in the last 3 years.

Something even Mr Cullen seemed to ackowledge last night on Boots n All when he said that he seems to think that "Something Special" is about to happen at the Wigan club.
It's not often I agree with him but the Green Shoots are quickly coming through.

PS

I would let him go and move on, but only for 1 x reason, I wouldn't want to go through all of this again this time next year!

Its a tough one for me, I go no though as i think BN although doing a fantastic job, has taken us as far as he can.

Also IL would look stupid if he went back on this, however if there is no-one better is he cutting his nose of to spite his face?

The biggest problem for me under noble is the fact that we only play well at the end of the season, doing enough in the weekly rounds to get by.

I do however realise that this is coming from a fans perspective, and that in an ideal world, we would perform each week.

I've said 'yes'.

His consistancy particulary in the earlier stages of the stages needs to be worked on, but are the any coaches that don't have flaws to their game?

Under Brian Noble this season, we have reached the Semi-Final of the Challenge Cup and have reached the playoff Semi-Finals with experts tipping us to make the final. With Noble being head coach of this club, our academy and reserve grades have both made their respective Grand Finals with one side winning and the other pending result.

We have ALL questioned his decision making this season and the majority have questioned his future at the club including myself, but can anybody really have done better the above given the tools that he has? If so, is the calibure of that coach available? I had a right to question whether he was the right coach for the club, but he is redeeming himself and I'm not too proud to admit that.

Unfortunately, I think it may be too late for him to redeem himself, as replacing a head coach is the sort of move a club has to start engineering at an early stage.

I guess that's one drawback of coaching a team that only performs at the tail-end of the season.

If that's the case, then I can't begrudge the decision regardless of how our season ends.

I think we have seen enough bad this season at times, but I accept your point.

But have we seen any different than 90% of oher clubs?

I would suspect that some of the rugby Hudds have served up wouldn't be good enough for our fans even "If" the results were slightly better?

I totally agree that the 2 x starts we have had last 2 x years havent been good enough However there is a fine line between success and failure on this front.

We were on the wrong end of 2 or 3 50/50 games early season and I have no doubt that could have put a totally different spin on our season as a whole.
Is that Nobles fault, well ultimately he's the man with his head on the block, and that's why I wouldn't mind changing coaches irrespective of GF results etc.

The right man Long term is the right man irrespective of results this week.

I just think that certain fans have made up their mind and the 1st negative thing to happen to the club, which will inevitably happen as it will happen with all clubs, and the whole Circus will start again!

That's why Im voting NO! And that's not because I am against BN staying just I don't think he can do any right in the eyes of some.