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Quote: DaveO "Exactly. It's a bit crazy we are within 80 mins of a GF appearance so lets just talk about that between now and what happens next, whatever that may be.

Dave'"


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Isn't that what we've been telling you DaveO? icon_wink.gif icon_wink.gif icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "and this is a big if but not impossible.

Wigan win the Grand Final or even get to Old Trafford. How can IFL possibly not renew Nobles contract? I would think its already cut and dried that Noble is going by now so how would IFL explain himself should we win it or even get there?

If Noble manages to win us the Grand Final, IFL and alot of fans could end up with some serious egg on there faces. Whoever the new coach is that comes in he is gonna be under massive pressure to deliver. Anything less than the CC semi final and the final eliminator of the play offs next year will be seen as a failure IMO.'"


Winning the GF will be amazing but I don't believe Noble is the one to take us forward. We need a new coach. Just because we can string a few decent wins together at the back end of the year doesnt make him a good coach, or infact, us a good team. We finished 6th this year - behind wakefield, hull kr & huddersfield. In my opinion we should be finishing higher than those teams with the team we have. People forget the dire rugby we played up until about may? Then we start to put some good results together and people want him to stay on.

My view is, Thanks Brian, but it's time for a change.

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Quote: dany1979 "Noble out
Or would it be IFL out should he replace Noble with a coach who fails to get us to a semi final/final eliminator?

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Quote: Jukesays "Clarke & McCinness didn't win the League though did they?
A bit of DaveO Mischief there I think
We won the Challenge cup, finished 3rd in the League, got to the Lancashire cup final under them in 1984/1985, and we finished 2nd in the League, quarter finals of the Challenge cup and won the JPS + Lancashire cups under them in 1985/1986.

So they had a pretty damn good record.

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I still have my opinions on what should happen next but I will happily keep them to myself for now. I am sure you will too. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Jeff the God of Biscuits "Winning the GF will be amazing but I don't believe Noble is the one to take us forward. We need a new coach. Just because we can string a few decent wins together at the back end of the year doesnt make him a good coach, or infact, us a good team. We finished 6th this year - behind wakefield, hull kr & huddersfield. In my opinion we should be finishing higher than those teams with the team we have. People forget the dire rugby we played up until about may? Then we start to put some good results together and people want him to stay on.

My view is, Thanks Brian, but it's time for a change.'"


The bit in red is seriously crazy though. Surely 'if' we did somehow win the grand final Noble will us taken us to the very top never mind take us forward!

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Quote: Jeff the God of Biscuits "Winning the GF will be amazing but I don't believe Noble is the one to take us forward. We need a new coach. Just because we can string a few decent wins together at the back end of the year doesnt make him a good coach, or infact, us a good team. We finished 6th this year - behind wakefield, hull kr & huddersfield. In my opinion we should be finishing higher than those teams with the team we have. People forget the dire rugby we played up until about may? Then we start to put some good results together and people want him to stay on.

My view is, Thanks Brian, but it's time for a change.'"


I agree with that. Too many people are swayed by a the last few results and forget the underlying problems. Brian Noble has laid the foundations but we need someone new to finish the job.

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Quote: Steve Ella's Beard "Right, so would you have kept Clarke+McInnes? and missed out on Graham Lowe?'"


I never expressed an opinion, just asked a question or two.

I'm on the fence at the moment, we watch sh|t all season but we do well in the playoffs when it matters.

What exactly would we do if it was the opposite? Hull KR have played some good stuff, but lost both play off games.

We'd be going on about our team bottling it had we done the same.

Like I say they are just questions.

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Quote: wiganermike "I agree with that. Too many people are swayed by a the last few results and forget the underlying problems. Brian Noble has laid the foundations but we need someone new to finish the job.'"


If we won the GF is the job not finished?

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Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "Or would it be IFL out should he replace Noble with a coach who fails to get us to a semi final/final eliminator?'"


Maybe but i too am prepared to have agg on my face if we reach and win the grand final,

Credit to Brian Noble, he has no doubt helped to turn the club around but i just feel that to remain consistent throughout the season we need somebody who is tactically smarter than him.

I agree with the god of biscuits.

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Quote: AJ "If we won the GF is the job not finished?'"


No as it would not have solved the serious issue of our lack of consistency throughout the season and specifically our chronic inability to hit the ground running and start the season well.

A GF win would be great but it wouldn't erase that problem and BN has not been able to solve it in his three full seasons.

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Grand Final or not, the whole club needs something fresh. Leeds and Stains change their coaches roughly every 3 years regardless of them being successful.

From a player's perspective, like anything in life, when you're used to a predictable routine, to hearing the same speeches every year, a fresh perspective adds a spark.

A new coach would add a spring to their step and make them think about the game in different ways. Little things make big differences.

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Quote: Orrell Lad "Grand Final or not, the whole club needs something fresh. Leeds and Stains change their coaches roughly every 3 years regardless of them being successful.

From a player's perspective, like anything in life, when you're used to a predictable routine, to hearing the same speeches every year, a fresh perspective adds a spark.

A new coach would add a spring to their step and make them think about the game in different ways. Little things make big differences.'"


Just to play devil's advocate, how long was Wayne Bennett in charge at the Broncos? and how many did they win? icon_wink.gif Still that was Wayne Bennett though

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Quote: wiganermike "No as it would not have solved the serious issue of our lack of consistency throughout the season and specifically our chronic inability to hit the ground running and start the season well.

A GF win would be great but it wouldn't erase that problem and BN has not been able to solve it in his three full seasons.'"


So you would trade a Grand Final win for consistancy throughout the season?

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