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| Quote: andyed-wiganrl "Shows we should have kept dobson though doesnt it. A Sam / Dobson partnership would be a WC partnership that could play for wigan for ten years.
We should have gone for dobson when we had the chance to get him last year instead of getting the lump riddell. Imagine Sam /Dobson in the middle with Leuleui at Hooker. That alone would have given us 6-8 points more this season and could possibly have secured second spot!'"
Indeed, stated this a few weeks ago. ST & MD at halfbacks, TL at 9 and genuine $hithouse prop would have us up there in the Top Three.
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| Quote: Mini Rogue "We couldn't keep Dobbo though, he was goin back to Australia anyway and was contracted under the Raiders then.'"
Quote: Mini Rogue "Shows we should have kept dobson though doesnt it. A Sam / Dobson partnership would be a WC partnership that could play for wigan for ten years.
We should have gone for dobson when we had the chance to get him last year instead of getting the lump riddell. Imagine Sam /Dobson in the middle with Leuleui at Hooker. That alone would have given us 6-8 points more this season and could possibly have secured second spot!'"
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| Quote: Steve Ella's Beard "And before KR signed him we apparently made 3 increasingly higher offers for him but he chose the money on offer from KR instead.'"
Exactly. In an ideal world I'm sure we would love to see a Tomkins/Dobson combination but it wouldn't have been easy as that. Dobson was contracted for the Raiders the season after he was with us and then came over to KR after that, we did make him an offer but he went to KR for bigger wage offered.
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| Quote: andyed-wiganrl "
He was already a KR player and contracted to them, it's not that simple.
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| Quote: Mini Rogue "Exactly. In an ideal world I'm sure we would love to see a Tomkins/Dobson combination but it wouldn't have been easy as that. Dobson was contracted for the Raiders the season after he was with us and then came over to KR after that, we did make him an offer but he went to KR for bigger wage offered.'"
Surely that shows we should have offered him a bigger offer then doesnt it?
Id bet he wasnt offered as much as riddell was as well....shows what a mistake that one was doesnt it?
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| Quote: andyed-wiganrl "Surely that shows we should have offered him a bigger offer then doesnt it?
Id bet he wasnt offered as much as riddell was as well....shows what a mistake that one was doesnt it?'"
Maybe we couldn't afford to offer him more? What has piggy got to do with Dobson signing? Piggy was only signed this season, as was Amos. Your obsession with Piggy is worrying.
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| Quote: andyed-wiganrl "Surely that shows we should have offered him a bigger offer then doesnt it?
Id bet he wasnt offered as much as riddell was as well....shows what a mistake that one was doesnt it?'"
Come on andyed mate be reasonable.
We have no idea how much money we had available, and we have no idea if he was or was not offered more than riddell, and we have no idea how much of a contract he's on at KR (and how much it would have taken to prise him away from it - quite possible it could have required even more money)
Any chance we can be a bit more positive instead of automatically assuming the worst from the club?
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Kyle Eastmond maybe although he's preformed nowhere near the level of Tomkins on a consistant basis.
Ainscough would be right up there aswell given the criteria even though he's only played half a year.'"
No Eastmond was excluded as he had played too many games in previous seasons.
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| Quote: Steve Ella's Beard "Come on andyed mate be reasonable.
We have no idea how much money we had available, and we have no idea if he was or was not offered more than riddell, and we have no idea how much of a contract he's on at KR (and how much it would have taken to prise him away from it - quite possible it could have required even more money)
Any chance we can be a bit more positive instead of automatically assuming the worst from the club?
fair point but I would be surprised if Riddell was not on more wedge than Dobson....so i was just trying to show in hindsight what a bum deal we got.........Tomkins, Leuleu, Riddell OR Tomkins, Dobson, Leuleu.....for me that is the difference between a side who can only just manage 6th to a side that could finish 1/2nd and challenge for the Grand Final!
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| Quote: andyed-wiganrl "fair point but I would be surprised if Riddell was not on more wedge than Dobson....so i was just trying to show in hindsight what a bum deal we got.........Tomkins, Leuleu, Riddell OR Tomkins, Dobson, Leuleu.....for me that is the difference between a side who can only just manage 6th to a side that could finish 1/2nd and challenge for the Grand Final!'"
I agree Dobson is a good player who i'd have liked in our squad, but it wouldn't suprise me if he's on a fair old wedge at KR tbh.
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| Anyway, we're missing the big issue of how did sam score more points in the overall award than the incomparable Danny McGuire?
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| Quote: Steve Ella's Beard "Anyway, we're missing the big issue of how did sam score more points in the overall award than the incomparable Danny McGuire?
Well there's less quality players at Wigan so its easier to stand out, kind of makes you wonder how Sinfield manages to score more point than Todd Flannders.
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| Quote: Herb Narvo "Which other players meet that criteria and could have been in the reckoning?
I can't think of anybody else.'"
Think Ryan Hall is still only 21.
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| Quote: Steve Ella's Beard "I agree Dobson is a good player who i'd have liked in our squad, but it wouldn't suprise me if he's on a fair old wedge at KR tbh.'"
I'm pretty sure he'll be our highest earner especially on his new deal. Money well spent tho'.
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| Quote: The Nihilist "Think Ryan Hall is still only 21.'"
But he has played more than 10 first team games prior to this season.
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