Fielden made more yards per carry then Feka did against us.

Just looking at the stats in LW for the semi and Feka only made 5 carries for a total of 30 metres, made 16 tackles and missed 3. The only impact that is is the big hole it created in your team.

Fielden made 25 tackles missed none and made 45 metres in 8 carries.

That's incredibly poor for 2 such experienced campaigners.

He's not getting the blame for everything, but Wire - mainly Monaghan - blasted straight through or past him almost every time, setting up the roll that allowed them to keep scoring. This was quite clear even without the benefit of looking at replays. Why do you think Noble took him off so soon?

Bailey went down injured shortly after Feka and Fielden replaced Coley and Prescott. All of a sudden we were in effect three tacklers down in the pack, and the entire direction of the game changed.

He may only have done 15 minutes, but it was the 15 minutes that lost us the match.

I started a thread on this a few weeks back, but serious questions need to be asked about our fitness and conditioning regime - both Feka and Piggy need to be told they won't play next season until they are in better condition. If players aren't in the condition to play, they shouldn't be in the team.

Carefull what you say Rickey, you don't want to unleash a Shitnami

Mike Forshaw = sacked

Partly, but if you were a good conditioner and players didn't keep themselves fit would you [as a member of the coachin staff] still allow them to play in the first team?

Surely as a conditioner if a player isn't doing the required work they should liase with the head coach and surely act accordingly?

the condition of our entire team has been questionable this season.......they just dont appear to have the strength to last the full 80 mins......feka looks shattered after 10 mins on the pitch ...i blame the conditioner ,the player and the coaching staff cos they should all work hard at ensuring ALL the players are at their peak fitness

I love the way a player has a really bad game and it suddenly makes his previous decent performances disapear on here. Feka has been our once source of go forward in our pack in many matches in the past few years, at which point people would complain about Coley or Fielden. He came on at the worst possible time for an impact player - just as the momentum had turned entirely in the opposition's favour. They ran as many players as they could at him and then used the Quick PTB to destroy him around the ruck, which tired him out due to his poor fitness. However, the other players were not at fault either, for example Gleeson, Fielden and Joel all had poor defensive games as well. However I appreciate what Feka has done for our squad, and we would be crazy to let him go, even if his is a so called "luxury".




Of course , I forgot Roberts is supposed to mark his opposition centre as well as winger with no help from other players! Wigan offered zero shielding for Roberts, something they will probably have been blasted by Noble for, as this is second nature to all other teams. But never mind that, were was Roberts when Hicks broke through on the other side or when Cooper went between the posts, his is useless and we should get rid if he isn't tackling every player, nothing to do with dear Gleeson.

I said earlier on he played the same game on Saturday as he did the week before at Saints but unlike Saints, Warrington managed to exploit the holes he left time and again in defence.

It's cme to something when Fielden isn't our most underpreforming prop forward.

i know it is unlikely we will be getting an enforcer type prop from aus next season, but after the debacle of the weekend with fielden and feka, i would be more than satisfied if we got griffin and someone else of similar stature from super league next season, both griffin and mason looked a cut above fielden and feka, who would have ever thought that. if we cant get an enforcer then at least get 2 grafters in to go with coley,prescott and mossop,otherwise we will be in the same boat again next season. it really is coming back to haunt us now signing a winger for 4 years which we didn't really need, the money for roberts could have been put to better use. some riduculous decisions seem to have been made at this club over the last couple of years regarding signings.

Get feka some liposuction and pump a bit into Fielden. We'd have two reasonable sized props then

One of the most experienced players in Super League is of the opinion that the only reason why Wigan aren't challenging Leeds/Stains is "because their props don't work hard enough, simple as that".

Based on those statistics I can see what he means.