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| I have never rated paleosina, today he and he alone gifted wire the match. I am sure he is a nice bloke, but he should not be allowed to play for wigan again, the other players must groan when they see him coming on.
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45658_1356296105.jpg [color=#FF0000:1fnfdzuc]Wigan vs Leeds finals aggregate score.
Wigan 178 - 64 Leeds
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I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I am all out of bubblegum.
Don't you struggle. Don't you fight. Don't you worry, cause it's your turn tonight!
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| Quote: manxie "I have never rated paleosina, today he and he alone gifted wire the match. I am sure he is a nice bloke, but he should not be allowed to play for wigan again, the other players must groan when they see him coming on.'"
I must admit although I really like the guy he's getting worse, his fitness is getting worse and thats contributing to his overall poor play.
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| Quote: jonh "Cost us the game today, why for the love of god did he rotate the Props after 18 minutes given how dominant we were, they were showing no signs of fatigue Fielden and Feka on, all momentum lost, Wire put in a match winning 20.
Shocking call.
You reap what you sow sadly.
You cannot expect to start playing rugby at the business end of the season and the passes stick combined with the subing by the clock which was the major contribution in my opinion to us losing a very winable match.'"
To be honest jonh, Fecka and Fielden really need to be shown the door, the amount of cap they must be taking up, (especially Fielden), could free up enough £ for 3 - 4 forwards that will be willing to put 100% in for the club in more than 10 minute bursts. Until you sort your pack out, you are always going to struggle.
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| Feka was one of the main reasons we lost today, TonySmiths game plan was very good, as soon as Feka came on they ran at him time and time again, he is fat and slow getting into the marker position and they ran round him making easy yards. they had scored three tries on the bounce before Feka got a run by which time he was knackered and taken off after only spending 10 mins on the pitch. that cost us the game and paul prescotts inability not to have a knockonathon every game
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| Since we have Paleaaesina until the end of next year at least, the obvious solution is to get in a fitness coach/conditioner who actually knows what he is doing.
A proper nutritionist also wouldn't go a miss.
From there it's down to Feka to want to do it.
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| Quote: Panda Antics "
Agree with the OP; the moment these subs were made, we lost the match.'"
No sherlock! The problem is though there is no saying had we not made the changes we would of won which makes Jonh post a bit of an easy stab at Noble which he loves so much.
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| You can't blame Prescott. The damage had already been done by then. Wire took the foot off the gas and the team gave us false hope. How many times has that happened over the past few months???
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| Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "No poop sherlock! The problem is though there is no saying had we not made the changes we would of won which makes Jonh post a bit of an easy stab at Noble which he loves so much.'"
If we didn't make the changes who knows what would have happened?
The fact we did make the changes at the same time and in the given situation was a disaster from Noble.
It was obvious what would happen from then on in.
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| Quote: Panda Antics "Since we have Paleaaesina until the end of next year at least, the obvious solution is to get in a fitness coach/conditioner who actually knows what he is doing.
A proper nutritionist also wouldn't go a miss.
From there it's down to Feka to want to do it.'"
Is your fitness coach/conditioner by chance an ex-wire employee? If so, this is exactly the same problem we suffered from when he was at our place.
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| Quote: the fucitolbladderwrack "Is your fitness coach/conditioner by chance an ex-wire employee? If so, this is exactly the same problem we suffered from when he was at our place.'"
He will go when Noble does.
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| Quote: the fucitolbladderwrack "Is your fitness coach/conditioner by chance an ex-wire employee? If so, this is exactly the same problem we suffered from when he was at our place.'"
He will go when Noble does.
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| Quote: Panda Antics "If we didn't make the changes who knows what would have happened?
The fact we did make the changes at the same time and in the given situation was a disaster from Noble.
It was obvious what would happen from then on in.'"
I can see what your trying to say but to me it seems like the same old Wigan fans. When we lose blame the coach.
The problem here is the moment Feka and Fielden came on i would place a bet that almost every Wigan fan expected them to take the game to Warrington and build on the foundations that Prescott and Coley had laid. I bet not many Wigan fans disagreed with Nobles substitutions at the time they happened. It was not Nobles fault that both F+F were both awful yet it is so easy to sit here now and say its all Nobles fault for making the wrong substitutions.
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| Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "I can see what your trying to say but to me it seems like the same old Wigan fans. When we lose blame the coach.
The problem here is the moment Feka and Fielden came on i would place a bet that almost every Wigan fan expected them to take the game to Warrington and build on the foundations that Prescott and Coley had laid. I bet not many Wigan fans disagreed with Nobles substitutions at the time they happened. It was not Nobles fault that both F+F were both awful yet it is so easy to sit here now and say its all Nobles fault for making the wrong substitutions.'"
RJH Feka and Fielden should not have been on the field at that stage, obviously they have to come on but only when Prescott and Coley showed signs of dropping off the pace, which they did not. The momentum was fully with us and Morley and co were coming off second best, why change it because the clock says we should, let them continue and introduce the bench when needed not when the stop watch says you should.
Shocking tactic and indefensable in my opinion.
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| Quote: Connor The Warrior "He will go when Noble does.'"
Thought so, and so he should.
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| Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "I can see what your trying to say but to me it seems like the same old Wigan fans. When we lose blame the coach.'"
I call it as I see it to be honest, and all too often Noble is at fault in these type of performances.
Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "The problem here is the moment Feka and Fielden came on i would place a bet that almost every Wigan fan expected them to take the game to Warrington and build on the foundations that Prescott and Coley had laid.'"
Not really. Fielden hasn't taken the game to anyone in God knows how long, and as I've said, it was utter stupidity to bring Feka on when we're about to kick off to the opposition other wise there's a chance, as was the case today, that he'd be knackered by the time we finally saw any of the ball.
Now it's not Noble's fault that Feka is in the awful state of fitness (or rather lack of it) he is but it's up to Noble to give him the best chance of being effective as possible, and today Noble did not do that.
Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "I bet not many Wigan fans disagreed with Nobles substitutions at the time they happened. It was not Nobles fault that both F+F were both awful yet it is so easy to sit here now and say its all Nobles fault for making the wrong substitutions.'"
I disagreed with the substitutions at the time for the above reasons, plus that fact neither Prescott nor Coley looked to be struggling at the time.
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