I think Tomkins was by far the better player on Friday night but Eastmond is inconsistent and he was much better against Wire than against you lot. I think he may be a confidence player whereas Tomkins doesn't give the impression of being short on confidence.

Eastmond was very good against warrington but I do not think he is a confidence player. Kevin Brown is a confidence player.

Hate comes from fear

cant help thinking your a stains fan

I agree with that, but I think Tomkins has more of a defined role within the which can make it easier for him.



Saints players? I don't know anything about the players hating him. I'm also led to believe that Martyn is a nice guy.

Sorry I meant fans!

Apart from consistently finding space (especially from distance) with his kicking (something Saints have struggled to achieve for some time), being halted half a metre before the line on his way to a second try, showing excellent hands (given the conditions) taking a trio of shocking passes without knocking on, demonstrating solidity and tenacity in defence etc. etc. etc.

I don't think that there is a lot between the two of them. In one game Sam may play better then it could be reversed the next. Both have got quite a bit of developing to do IMO and it will be interesting how they compare this time next year.

I think it is great that there are these two, plus Myler, who can possibly develop into world class players to give the Aussies a run for their money.

If they all keep fit it's a pity that one of them will be the bridesmaid as far as international honours are concerned, unless Sam develops as a centre later?

Who will it be? My money's on Myler as the misser due to his woeful defence. What do you think?

That could prove to be his downfall at international level, against the Aussies and Kiwis atleast.

Whereare Tomkins has great defence and Eastmond is far better than Myler

I agree Myler isnt proven in a big/good team the other two are shinning in good teams. That might sound daft but all too often we see people come in and cannot perform on the big stage in a big team.

His impact shows he's a game winning player, and although i agree that Tomkins was better in Fridays game, they are two different 'types' of halfbacks, and if played together, may give England a great chance in future world cups

well you was watching from your saints bias.......me from my wigan bias, so i guess you saw things i didnt, and vive versa.

i still think tomkins...........and where did you dream about eastmonds defence???

Each to their own I suppose. They both play a different kind of game. in time to come they should make a great international pairing. Burrow and Mcguire who are they.