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Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "AJ is spot on. Mathers was hounded and abused by the Wigan fans everytime the ball went near him in a game. Whenever the ball was kicked towards him the fans would start to groan in anticipation of him making an error. You could tell by the way Mathers would hesitate picking a loose ball up that he was scared to death of making a mistake so much so that he was trying so hard not to make an error that he would do. His confidence was shot to pieces. I suggest you try playing fullback with 12000+ of your own so called fans mocking you everytime the ball goes near you.'"


I think anyone who thinks this was the main reason is way off the mark. Buts lets say its correct and Warrington signed a basket case. Tony Smith has clearly sorted him out.

Now if he can do that, why couldn't our coach protect him as he does after all, exercise a "duty of care" towards his players?

I have no doubt both you and AJ will stick the boot into players you don't think good enough for the club e.g. Higham so its all a bit disingenuous to blame the fans for seeing Mathers off when you would happily slag off other players yourself.

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Quote: DaveO "Now if he can do that, why couldn't our coach protect him as he does after all, exercise a "duty of care" towards his players? '"


How does he do that, tell 12k of people to be nice to him?

Quote: DaveO "Higham'"


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How long are you going to flog that horse?

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Quote: DaveO " I think anyone who thinks this was the main reason is way off the mark. Buts lets say its correct and Warrington signed a basket case. Tony Smith has clearly sorted him out. '"


Why are you arguing about something thats never been mentioned. Who said Wire signed a basket case?

Wire signed a player that the majority of Wigan fans destroyed. Dont tell me you never heard the abuse he got at games from his own so called fans. Like i said even when he was still at Wigan,he was so scared of making a mistake that he would make a mistake. Maybe at Warrington he can concentrate more on playing the game rather than the so called 12000+ fans on his back everytime the ball goes near him.

Quote: DaveO "Now if he can do that, why couldn't our coach protect him as he does after all, exercise a "duty of care" towards his players? '"


Noble tried to protect him by playing him in the reserves to boost his confidence where there was no pressure on him. The difference was at Wire when he came into the first team he didnt have his own fans on his back.

Quote: DaveO "I have no doubt both you and AJ will stick the boot into players you don't think good enough for the club e.g. Higham so its all a bit disingenuous to blame the fans for seeing Mathers off when you would happily slag off other players yourself.

Dave '"


Seriously you and Micky Higham need to get a room and get this obsession out of your system. Remember Alex's bedroom thread? Well im convinced yours is the same but with Mickys pics rather than Trents.

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Mathers has always had the ability, but now he's got a coach who can bring the best out of him.

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Quote: The Nihilist "Mathers has always had the ability, but now he's got a coach who can bring the best out of him.'"


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Anyone noticed Rob Kearney looks very much like Mathers? I know which i'd rather have.

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Its impossible to state the exact reason for his failure at Wigan without knowing the ins and outs of what went on off the pitch. However, judging by the amount of underperforming players in the past few seasons, coaching could well have something to do with it.

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Can't believe you guys didn't set up an appreciation group for Richie Mathers ?

The guy's an awesome player
www.facebook.com/home.php#/group ... 5258491696
Can't believe you guys didn't set up an appreciation group for Richie Mathers ?

The guy's an awesome player
www.facebook.com/home.php#/group ... 5258491696


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[color=#FF4000:3htgpm5r][quote:3htgpm5r]I read that Leeds-Bradford is an airport and that Wigan-St Helens is a rivalry. It's one I can't wait for[/quote:3htgpm5r] Ryan Hoffman [quote:3htgpm5r]After all, rugby league has a history of ideas that appear madcap at first but are taken up elsewhere, usually by rugby union[/quote:3htgpm5r] Christopher Irvine - The Times [quote:3htgpm5r] Wire fans, like Leeds fans, are fickle as feck, and mostly glory supporters. [/quote:3htgpm5r] Sherbert Dip - Leeds Fan [quote:3htgpm5r]I will never forget that atmosphere at Knowsley Road on Good Friday when the final hooter sounded. On behalf of all the fellas thank you so much for being the greatest fans in the world.[/quote:3htgpm5r] Phil Bailey[/color:3htgpm5r]:



Quote: Wire_Yed_79 "Can't believe you guys didn't set up an appreciation group for Richie Mathers ?

The guy's an awesome player

The important bit from that is thisDisplaying 1 member'"


We didn't set one up because we didn't want to sit in a facebook group on our own and look like a tool.

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Quote: Wire_Yed_79 "Can't believe you guys didn't set up an appreciation group for Richie Mathers ?

The guy's an awesome player



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Quote: Batesy "The important bit from that is this

just set it up

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Quote: Wire_Yed_79 "just set it up

hence
[iCan't believe you guys didn't set up an appreciation group for Richie Mathers[/i'"


that still didn't indicate that you'd just set one up.

I personally think you've had that set up for at least a month. And your still the only member? I'd say get your family to join but you sister/mum and your brother/dad would only make 3 of you. [flashbacks?]

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Quote: inside_man "that still didn't indicate that you'd just set one up.

I personally think you've had that set up for at least a month. And your still the only member? I'd say get your family to join but you sister/mum and your brother/dad would only make 3 of you. [flashbacks?]'"


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Quote: Wire_Yed_79 "just set it up

hence
[iCan't believe you guys didn't set up an appreciation group for Richie Mathers[/i'"


Once again.



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Quote: Wire_Yed_79 "check the group picture it's from yesterdays game
HTH'"


took you a while to figure out how to upload pictures did it?

aww...diddums.

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