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| Quote: MDW12 "Good point. Obviously we all know its not going as well as it should be on the pitch but behind the scenes it looks as though we are on the right track after years of serious problems'"
How dare you look at anyhting Positively! You will be banned!
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20333_1393344959.gif Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid.
Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal.
Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_20333.gif |
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| He is doin the best he can and I think he is doing a great job, he isnt going to play into DWs hands by kicking off and having a public slanging match about the stadium all he can do is bite his tongue and hope for the best, he wouldn't have got so far in buisiness if he let his heart rule his head.
I trust IL completley to get us back to where we belong, he has shown he is willing to splash the cash if needs be.
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| Quote: Jukesays "How dare you look at anyhting Positively! You will be banned!'"
haha i've not been registered long but have been reading through the site for ages; there does seem to be an abundance of doom and gloom merchants!
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| selling mick higham and bringing the over paid and over rated riddell in .not improved the team 1 little bit
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| Quote: st ives "selling mick higham and bringing the over paid and over rated riddell in .not improved the team 1 little bit'"
You nickmanator by any chance?
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| Quote: MattyB "You nickmanator by any chance?
Hes not really a master of disguise old nicky boy his he
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| why are numbers 1,2,3,5,6 deemed to be 'mistakes'? Maybe upon a personal level but not that of a collective surely?
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| I voted for not sorting the pack out v the backs.
I think this can fairly be laid at his door because he was quoted as saying early on we had enough props at the club so would not be recruiting any and he wanted a speedy winger. That and simply signing Roberts a year early and also adding Phelps and Smith was "fixing" the part of the team that needed least fixing IMO and I think IL was the major player here.
However I'd also like to vote for extending Nobles contract as well because he extended the contract of a coach who can't coach the sort of side he has got here at Wigan i.e. one with a poor pack.
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| I have no idea why the stadium fiacsco, ignoring the weakness in the pack, or signing gleeson could be attributed to IL as mistakes.
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| Quote: jonh "I have no idea why the stadium fiacsco, ignoring the weakness in the pack, or signing gleeson could be attributed to IL as mistakes.'"
IL has faced critcism on here for all three reasons above.
IIRC DaveO voiced his concerns re: Gleeson signing.
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| I think IL gets some seriously undue stick on here, he couldnt have done anything about the stadium fiasco, thats the bottom line. If he'd have come out and said stuff in the press surely it would just have meant it was more likely to happen again in the future.
As for not signing another prop, i suppose you have to think about the salary cap, if managed properly you'll have a certain amount for the backs, certain amount for the forwards, and when you consider we have 5 props (who all are good enough for first team in theory) that will already take up a massive chunk of the salary cap that then would have needed to be taken from somewhere else. If fielden wasn't such a pansy, we would be near the top, i genuinely believe that, we'd have someone leading from the front and a bit of strength. It's not lenegans fault that the best prop in the world has decided he's gonna soil himself when faced with anyone running towards him.
I think a huge amount of work has been done in taking the club away from being a Wigan Latics subsidary and back to being Wigan RL who can support itself from it's own revenue, restructuring the personnel to actually be able to manage the club and generally sorting out the whelan created by turning it into a branch of latics.
Lenegan, keep it up (just sack noble next week though )
p.s shouldnt votes 5 + 6 be more attributed to noble than lenegan?
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| Quote: MattyB "IL has faced critcism on here for all three reasons above.
IIRC DaveO voiced his concerns re
But how are they down to him?
Stadium Fiasco? Do people expect him to buy the stadium on top of the club? He is no mug he would not have earned the cash he has if he were, so why think he could have got the stadium rights in the deal is beyond me.
Regards signings-it has been widley publicised IL and BN meet 4 times a year to decide on a recruitment policy, so how is the recruitment of backs over forwards down to IL, he may have a part in it but clearly he must be advised by his coaches. It is clear BN was reluctant to throw Tomkins and Ainscough in and signed accordingly.
Gleeson-if signing the most gifted British centre of his generation is a bad thing i wonder that people want from the club.
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[b:2boqkfe7][color=#800000:2boqkfe7]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
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CHALLENGE CUP FINAL WINNERS 2002, 2011, 2013, 2022 & 2024
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| Quote: inside_man "I think IL gets some seriously undue stick on here, he couldnt have done anything about the stadium fiasco, thats the bottom line. If he'd have come out and said stuff in the press surely it would just have meant it was more likely to happen again in the future.
As for not signing another prop, i suppose you have to think about the salary cap, if managed properly you'll have a certain amount for the backs, certain amount for the forwards, and when you consider we have 5 props (who all are good enough for first team in theory) that will already take up a massive chunk of the salary cap that then would have needed to be taken from somewhere else. If fielden wasn't such a pansy, we would be near the top, i genuinely believe that, we'd have someone leading from the front and a bit of strength. It's not lenegans fault that the best prop in the world has decided he's gonna soil himself when faced with anyone running towards him.
I think a huge amount of work has been done in taking the club away from being a Wigan Latics subsidary and back to being Wigan RL who can support itself from it's own revenue, restructuring the personnel to actually be able to manage the club and generally sorting out the poop whelan created by turning it into a branch of latics.
Lenegan, keep it up (just sack noble next week though
I agree with a lot of what you have said there, but like it or not IL has had a fair amount of stick on here (unfairly you may say). Re: The stadium, okay the playoff issue was unavoidable, but the Good Friday game should have been sorted last summer with DW. Re: Vote 5 - well 40% disagree with you, thats why it's open to debate, hence that's why its included.
Vote 6 - A high transfer fee was paid (and it didn't come out of Noble's pocket).
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| Quote: MattyB "
IIRC DaveO voiced his concerns re
I didn't realise my opinion carried so much weight
I voiced my concerns over Goulding going the other way. Once he wasn't part of the deal, no problem.
Dave
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| Gotta say i'm happy with the way things are going under IL;
Mick Hogan has been a quality appointment,
We managed to get Gleeson AND send Mathers to Wire,
The accelerator squad shows increased attention to youth development
Fans forum has given fans access they've never had before
Richards & Tommy signed up
IL has finally started to spread the wealth and we have the makings of a good squad with depth which we haven’t had in years
Best home kit in years imo.
I’m not saying it’s been all good but when I look back to the times under Whelan I’m glad we’ve not got a kn0b in charge anymore.
It’s a massive task taking us back to the top again and I’m sure we’re moving in the right direction under him.
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