We have Bratfurt next week,

6- Tomkins
7- Smith

9- McIllorum

14- Leuluai

Riddell can whistle because I want Wigan lads playing, simple as! A lad from Wigan will put more heart and passion into their game than an Aussie regardles of how good they are!!!!!!

People like Riddell because he puts his hand up before he kicks, I couldnt give a monkeys if he got a ball and three cups and did magic tricks before he kicked a goal, end of the day we want lads who will put themselves on the line for the cause, Riddell aint done rack all, he plodding along earning his wage, McIllorum ripped Cas to pieces with his scoots, next week Riddell to reserves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

Leuluai has to start the game somewhere because imo he's now our best player.

Smith would be the man to miss out for me before Riddell.

I can't disagree but also feel that Richards looks better each time he is at full back , i don't think he ever stops learning , it must be is down to good attitude .

Richards is a superb player with a superb attitude as you say and i've said for a while now that i see him getting to a very high level at fullback if he is given a long run in the position. I think he'll add support play to his game and start to score regulary from there.

Other then that element of support play he's very good already. His tackle on the Quins player who broke the line in the first half was superb. He lined him up ala Rads and took him down with minimum fuss.

Top player.

Rads in attitude ? I HOPE.

And what a very poor example it is. Pat Richards was played out of position at centre and only improved when he went to play on the wing. That had as much to do with it as anything IMO.

But that is not the point. The REAL point is that experienced NRL players should NOT need time to settle in as far as their own game goes. They should be up to speed with that from the off. They may not be on the same wavelength as their team mates for a few games but their own individual skiils, general play and fitness ought to be apparent from day one (unless injured).

I can't comment on Riddell in the Quins game as I am here in the USA so I am making a general point. I don't think experienced NRL players should be excused when (apparently) players like S Tomkins have great a debut as Ainscough did (which I did see). If these two junior players can hit the ground running what excuse do vastly more experienced players have for not doing so? None I would say.

Dave

Iwould still have one trick mick,
over slow off the mark,mark anyday..

Agree with all of that

I've always said Tommy's best position is hooker

Smith shouldn't be anywhere near a Wigan shirt after Sam Tomkins performance last night

I think this seasons team is starting to pick itself.

Richards impressed (apart from a couple of errors) last night and took the ball up strongly on a number of occasions. Mathers won't get anywhere near the team from now on.


Ainscough and Roberts the wingers


Tomkins if he carries on has more than a fair shout at 6
Smith can play in his preferred 7 slot
TL is a much better 9 than a 7.

Riddell is two play the balls infront of every one else. He's clearly unfit.

Once he gets some fitness back we will see the difference.

You have to ask, why is he so unfit, along with others 4 games into a new season.

He shouldn't but we will probably see him at some point in the rest of the season