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Quote: cherryandwhitedavid06 "After speaking to him today I'm guessin not in the near future, he's not happy about it either.'"


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You have to feel sorry for the young lads at Wigan - especially when you see Aussies coming in and not performing. They must be itching to get out on the field. Today Saints played more youngsters because we had lost Cayless and Graham as well as not having Meli. Wheeler and Frodsham both had spells on the pitch and took their chances well. Wheeler scored a try.

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Quote: cherryandwhitedavid06 "After speaking to him today I'm guessin not in the near future, he's not happy about it either.'"


Oh dear Christ, I really hope we don't lose this kid because we've not used him icon_evil.gif

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He is in the squad, isn't he? If Noble doesn't consider him ready, he should not be in the squad.
Pick players on form. So drop the ones who were poor against Cas. e.g. Smith and Riddel and bring in replacements. e.g. Richards and Sam.
If Sam does not perform, then drop him.
It's simple really. Don't pick players on reputation, because they are Aussies or because they are of a certain age.
Pick players on ability on attack, defence and fitness. Oh, yes...and to please the fans icon_smile.gif .

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RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!! Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg



Quote: Tricky Dicky "Utter Tripe not giving the lad a chance.

Cas demonstrated that perfectlyOwen - Age 18, Shenton age 18, Westerman age 19.
Sam is 20 next month.

He is either good enough or he isnt and the only way we will find out is by him playing.


He should play next week for me with smith at 7 and tommy on the bench.'"


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Quote: kirkamania6 "Enlighten us further
Was just sayin theres more chance of noble picking our team's stand off than him at the moment.

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The annoying thing with the Tomkins situation is the lad hasn't even been given a chance yet at SL level and it dosen't look like it's going to happen anytime soon. The only chance I feel he'll get is if injury forces Noble's hand like it did with J Tomkins & Ainscough. Whats even more annoying is the fact these 2 players excelled themseleves when put in the first team yet its done nothing to change Noble's view on playing youngsters

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Quote: Perkin "The annoying thing with the Tomkins situation is the lad hasn't even been given a chance yet at SL level and it dosen't look like it's going to happen anytime soon. The only chance I feel he'll get is if injury forces Noble's hand like it did with J Tomkins & Ainscough. Whats even more annoying is the fact these 2 players excelled themseleves when put in the first team yet its done nothing to change Noble's view on playing youngsters'"


Hope for an inury to Smith is our best hope then icon_sad.gif

Considering he doesn't do many tackles that looks unlikely

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Quote: Agent Mulder "You have to feel sorry for the young lads at Wigan - especially when you see Aussies coming in and not performing. They must be itching to get out on the field. Today Saints played more youngsters because we had lost Cayless and Graham as well as not having Meli. Wheeler and Frodsham both had spells on the pitch and took their chances well. Wheeler scored a try.'"


So how many ex Saints academy players played today for Saints?

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Quote: Hogan Knows Best "With an obviously unfit Riddell, Sam should get his chance now, for me he should have played against Castleford.'"


I would have played him against Wakefield, they were missing both their first choice halfbacks and we had no recognised stand off in the squad, it was the first match of the season at home against what at the time appeared to be a weakened team, he should have been used more in the previous friendlies in preperation for a debut, if he doesn't play we'll never know how good he is, leave it too long and he'll get fed up and could look elsewere for an opportunity.

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Can't see him getting picked at all in the near future.
He needs to play behind a winning pack and ours isn't.
Chris Feather ran holes into our pack every time he hit the ball up. If Feather is doing that then your pack's defence is poor.
We need a pack like Noble had at Bradford, and Saints have had these past few years. Big, powerful, aggressive men who when interchanged provide relentless power going forward. They wear the opposition down and create space for the halves. That's what Wigan need.
Catalans last night were nowhere in the first 30 mins, Perry & Bosc weren't seen. When the Cats pack took over in the 2nd half and steamrollered the Wire forwards Bosc & Perry ran the show.
We haven't got a pack like Leeds have, nor Saints or Catalans.
Noble needs to build one and is perfectly capable of doing so.
All he needs is Ian Lenagan to pay what's needed.
If Sam Tomkins played at Leeds, Saints or Catalan he'd be a blinder.
Play him behind our pack he get killed!
Sorry to disagree with everyone but I'd rather him wait than get murdered.

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Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery....... I will look to the moment, and miraculously, the future will take care of itself. Radio 5 Live, Sat, April 14th, 2007,...Dave Whelan, "In Wigan, rugby will always be king" 'I was certain, positive, convinced, and yet..........unsure' 'It's only rock 'n' roll, but I like it' Worry will not prevent destiny from unfolding.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3632.jpg



Quote: Father Ted "Can't see him getting picked at all in the near future.
He needs to play behind a winning pack and ours isn't.
Chris Feather ran holes into our pack every time he hit the ball up. If Feather is doing that then your pack's defence is poor.
We need a pack like Noble had at Bradford, and Saints have had these past few years. Big, powerful, aggressive men who when interchanged provide relentless power going forward. They wear the opposition down and create space for the halves. That's what Wigan need.
Catalans last night were nowhere in the first 30 mins, Perry & Bosc weren't seen. When the Cats pack took over in the 2nd half and steamrollered the Wire forwards Bosc & Perry ran the show.
We haven't got a pack like Leeds have, nor Saints or Catalans.
Noble needs to build one and is perfectly capable of doing so.
All he needs is Ian Lenagan to pay what's needed.
If Sam Tomkins played at Leeds, Saints or Catalan he'd be a blinder.
Play him behind our pack he get killed!
Sorry to disagree with everyone but I'd rather him wait than get murdered.[/quote]


Agree but, if we wait too long he wont be here, we cant wait 2 more years till this pack of forwards get built, because the way our club is going, its this pack or somebody else's !!!!

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "So how many ex Saints academy players played today for Saints?'"


7 - Wellens, Tom Armstrong, Cunningham, Clough, Roby, Wheeler and Gareth Frodsham.

Out of interest there were 3/4 overseas players in the Saints team today - Gidley, Puletua, Flannery and Maurie.

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RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!! Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg



Quote: steve "7 - Wellens, Tom Armstrong, Cunningham, Clough, Roby, Wheeler and Gareth Frodsham.

Out of interest there were 3/4 overseas players in the Saints team today - Gidley, Puletua, Flannery and Maurie.'"


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He will get a run out weekend of 3 april its the 4th round of cup and we get a lower league side in the draw cos i cnt see noble picking him before that.

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