FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > Wigan Warriors > Ben Cross - Official
193 posts in 14 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Pemps
RankPostsTeam
Moderator14324
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED

Moderator


Quote: THEOriginalWire "I wanted to share my opinions on the wigan thread, a lot of your boys are over there, so why not come over here, after all it isn't us who have signed him, so i can say what i like over there, but i would like to discuss wigan's new signing with wigan fans. Ta.

Nice to see you get petty about it though, as though you've never been on another forum, the use of the word Dire just shows how petty, i respectfully call your club by it's name, and would expect other's to be grown up enough to do the same.'"


Put your handbag down dear, just a little bit of fun. If I knew how sensitive you'd get about the term Dire I wouldn't have used it - I'm not one for upsetting people unnecessarily, especially ones whose team haven't been champions for over half a century (hence the term). I call Saints, Stains, Leeds, Whinos etc - just a bit of friendly banter.

You seem to be trying to convince yourself about one of our signing with your posts?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2343No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2012Jun 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "Put your handbag down dear, just a little bit of fun. If I knew how sensitive you'd get about the term Dire I wouldn't have used it - I'm not one for upsetting people unnecessarily, especially ones whose team haven't been champions for over half a century (hence the term). I call Saints, Stains, Leeds, Whinos etc - just a bit of friendly banter.

You seem to be trying to convince yourself about one of our signing with your posts?'"


I was also, having a swipe. But let's face it, if i came on here calling you goons it wouldn't go down well.

I have no need to convince myself of my own opinions on players, but as i've said, i'll be proved either right or wrong after a few appearances from Cross, but everyone else shared an opinion, and so i decided to also. Odemwingie, has been quoted as slagging off cross, but i bet that was just left to be because he's a wigan fan. Smacks of double standards really.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach7439No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: MrMeat&PotatoPie "Not a bad signing, I was always abit concerned about the size of our pack... no disrespect to Mossop or Prescott, both are fantastic at what they do. However, our pack does seem incredibly small... just lack abit of aggression really. Not helped with Fielden being out, shame really as he was possibly our best forward towards the end of last season.


Anyone know when Fielden might be back?'"


My concerns exactly with our pack when you compare it to Warrington/Huddersfield, and as you quite rightly said - it is of no dis-respect to either Prescott or Mossop who are both playing out of thier skins ATM (well prior to Prescott's injury he was). Cross is IMO a very good short-term signing and will significantly bolster our pack in both size and aggression with the likes of Fielden (when he returns), Lima, Coley, Hoffman, Hock, Lockers etc etc.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator14324
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED

Moderator


Quote: THEOriginalWire "I was also, having a swipe. But let's face it, if i came on here calling you goons it wouldn't go down well.

I have no need to convince myself of my own opinions on players, but as i've said, i'll be proved either right or wrong after a few appearances from Cross, but everyone else shared an opinion, and so i decided to also. Odemwingie, has been quoted as slagging off cross, but i bet that was just left to be because he's a wigan fan. Smacks of double standards really.'"


I don't go onto other clubs forums and call them Dire, Stains etc - I leave for that for here so your point on that is irrelevant.

You've obviously not read earlier posts in this thread then with other Wiganers being criticised for slagging off the signing, so again your point on that is irrelevant.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner7779
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: THEOriginalWire "I wanted to share my opinions on the wigan thread, a lot of your boys are over there, so why not come over here, after all it isn't us who have signed him, so i can say what i like over there, but i would like to discuss wigan's new signing with wigan fans. Ta.

Nice to see you get petty about it though, as though you've never been on another forum, the use of the word Dire just shows how petty, i respectfully call your club by it's name, and would expect other's to be grown up enough to do the same.'"


Ok, lets say for arguments sake that your not over here trolling or trying to convince everyone that it's a bad signing using absolute P155 poor arguments.

1 question

He signs for Wigan, never plays a game because the 4 established props play every game every week from now till the end of the season (5 if Fielden does return this year which there seems to be at least a touch of doubt over).

Would it be a bad signing?
What would Wigan have Lost?

Now then, lets say on the other Hand, just like we were trying to say to even the Wigan fans who thought it was a bad signing 3 weeks ago when Coley,Prescott,Mossop & Lima were all fully fit. What happens if we pick up just 1 injury and a suspension?
We suddenly don't look so well off in the front row do we?
If he performs well and impresses in training he comes in and he either

A/ Plays well
B/Plays Bad

Either way I don't see how Wigan lose out as it would be better than sticking Hansen/Hoffman/Hock there and buggering up the 2nd row options and/or bringing Davies/Crosby in who obviously looking at the coaches decision (And Surely no-one can argue with his track record) don't look like there ready for business end of season rugby.
If this allows Coley a bit of of flexibility from now till end of season to get the best out of him, then that's got to be Good for Wigan?
If this allows Prescott a bit more recovery time friom the knocks he's picked up this season then also Good for Wigan?
If this allows Lima to play 45/60 mins a week instead of the 70+ he's done for the last few games whilst carrying knocks then Surely (You guessed it) Good for Wigan?
If this allows Mossop (Who believe me does have a problem with the shoulder) maybe a bit of a rest somewhere on the run in then Good for Wigan?
If this means we don't have to rush Fielden back if we get injuries somewhere else in the squad, good for Wigan?
If it gives any of the above 1% or more incentive to play well then guess what? Good for WIgan?

As I said 3 weeks ago when we knew he'd signed. We'll only know how good a player for Wigan he is after he's finished the season.
For now, given the added options it gives Wigan at this point in time in Size,experience and many other areas I fail completely to see 1 Negative aspect to this signing.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2343No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2012Jun 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Jukesays "Ok, lets say for arguments sake that your not over here trolling or trying to convince everyone that it's a bad signing using absolute P155 poor arguments.

1 question

He signs for Wigan, never plays a game because the 4 established props play every game every week from now till the end of the season (5 if Fielden does return this year which there seems to be at least a touch of doubt over).

Would it be a bad signing?
What would Wigan have Lost?

Now then, lets say on the other Hand, just like we were trying to say to even the Wigan fans who thought it was a bad signing 3 weeks ago when Coley,Prescott,Mossop & Lima were all fully fit. What happens if we pick up just 1 injury and a suspension?
We suddenly don't look so well off in the front row do we?
If he performs well and impresses in training he comes in and he either

A/ Plays well
B/Plays Bad

Either way I don't see how Wigan lose out as it would be better than sticking Hansen/Hoffman/Hock there and buggering up the 2nd row options and/or bringing Davies/Crosby in who obviously looking at the coaches decision (And Surely no-one can argue with his track record) don't look like there ready for business end of season rugby.
If this allows Coley a bit of of flexibility from now till end of season to get the best out of him, then that's got to be Good for Wigan?
If this allows Prescott a bit more recovery time friom the knocks he's picked up this season then also Good for Wigan?
If this allows Lima to play 45/60 mins a week instead of the 70+ he's done for the last few games whilst carrying knocks then Surely (You guessed it) Good for Wigan?
If this allows Mossop (Who believe me does have a problem with the shoulder) maybe a bit of a rest somewhere on the run in then Good for Wigan?
If this means we don't have to rush Fielden back if we get injuries somewhere else in the squad, good for Wigan?
If it gives any of the above 1% or more incentive to play well then guess what? Good for WIgan?

As I said 3 weeks ago when we knew he'd signed. We'll only know how good a player for Wigan he is after he's finished the season.
For now, given the added options it gives Wigan at this point in time in Size,experience and many other areas I fail completely to see 1 Negative aspect to this signing.'"



In your opinion.

IF he doesn't play then it will have been a mistake, because you will most likely have paid him.

If He does and adds to your squad then it will be a stroke of genius by MM, if he does play and does all well then you'll all look pretty silly for trying to say how good of a signing it has been. All i did was share my opinion, obviously an opinion shared by other wigan fans, but hey hp, lets label the warrington fan a troll for having a discussion. No wonder people refer to this board and the fans on it as the flaming third reich and the N***S.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach67No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2014Sep 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



is he able to play in the cup rounds or not

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach555
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2017Aug 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Excellent post, Jukes! All well reasoned logic - nothing Warrington trolls can intelligently say to counter your rational argument. ( No doubt one/two of them will try...!)

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach7439No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



IMHO I think your all being a bit 'touchy' whenever someone dis-agrees with the Cross signing - although FWIW, truewiganer, some of your comments were quite frankly, laughable.

Anyways, when a logical argument is posted - similar to the Wire poster's above, it transcends into what can only be described as "My Dad is bigger than your Dad". Petty. I'm all for debate and whatever - honestly, but this is borderline Year 4 playground "I'm not on your on" tig stuff.

So, before I'm shortly sent to the gallows to be hung for 'treason' - I shall make my position clear:

- Good signing
- Win, win situation for everyone.

Reet, thats me done. Mr Hangman, I'm ready. icon_wave.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach17844No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2014Mar 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: i8latics "is he able to play in the cup rounds or not'"
Yes he is

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach20628
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2016Aug 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Let's ignore the fact he's been absolute gash in SL and he has been gash, to deny it shows you know love all, no matter who he's played for.

It's a win win situation

He's cover for an injured prop
He's short term

If he's still gash he's gone in October
If he's good he helps you out all the way till October and provides an extra option.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator39717
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED

Moderator


Quote: i8latics "is he able to play in the cup rounds or not'"



round, singular.

icon_wink.gif

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach7439No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Horatio Yed "Let's ignore the fact he's been absolute gash in SL and he has been gash, to deny it shows you know love all, no matter who he's played for.

It's a win win situation

He's cover for an injured prop
He's short term

If he's still gash he's gone in October
If he's good he helps you out all the way till October and provides an extra option.'"


Nail. Head. Smashed it.

Ron
RankPostsTeam
International Star594No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2017Apr 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



So no short term signing can ever have a negative effect (according to wigan fans).... good to know.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2343No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2012Jun 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Horatio Yed "Let's ignore the fact he's been absolute gash in SL and he has been gash, to deny it shows you know love all, no matter who he's played for.

It's a win win situation

He's cover for an injured prop
He's short term

If he's still gash he's gone in October
If he's good he helps you out all the way till October and provides an extra option.'"

Quote: Horatio Yed "So no short term signing can ever have a negative effect (according to wigan fans).... good to know.'"
Quote: Horatio Yed "
Quote: Horatio Yed "is he able to play in the cup rounds or not'"



round, singular.


Please stop trolling wire boys, its not nice on the wiganers, this is where they have THEIR opinions, all of ours are nothing but trolling attempts.

193 posts in 14 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Pemps
193 posts in 14 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Pemps



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


8.404296875:10
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1s
Shopping list for 2025
HU8HFC
5588
3s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2611
26s
Film game
karetaker
5766
36s
Fixtures
Hockley Bron
12
55s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40802
58s
Getting a new side to gel
Wigan Bull
2
1m
Rumours and signings v9
Mark_P1973
28902
1m
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
1m
New Kit
Cokey
70
1m
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
NickyKiss
9
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
2
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Getting a new side to gel
Wigan Bull
2
TODAY
Fixtures
Hockley Bron
12
TODAY
Writers required
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,286 80,15614,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
       Championship 2025-R1
18:00
Toulouse
v
Widnes
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
       Championship 2025-R1
15:00
Bradford
v
LondonB
15:00
Featherstone
v
Doncaster
15:00
Oldham
v
York
15:00
Sheffield
v
Halifax
15:00
Barrow
v
Hunslet
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
       League One 2025-R1
15:00
Cornwall
v
Workington
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Crusaders
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1s
Shopping list for 2025
HU8HFC
5588
3s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2611
26s
Film game
karetaker
5766
36s
Fixtures
Hockley Bron
12
55s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40802
58s
Getting a new side to gel
Wigan Bull
2
1m
Rumours and signings v9
Mark_P1973
28902
1m
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
1m
New Kit
Cokey
70
1m
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
NickyKiss
9
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
2
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Getting a new side to gel
Wigan Bull
2
TODAY
Fixtures
Hockley Bron
12
TODAY
Writers required
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!