Spot on.

IL mentions that any signing made will be 'top quality'. www.wigantoday.net/warriors/Lena ... 5460025.jp

IL mentions that any signing made will be 'top quality'. www.wigantoday.net/warriors/Lena ... 5460025.jp

well, no $hit Ian. Good players arent going to play for peanuts are they?

Paper talk. I'm doubting we will sign anyone. And even if we do sign someone, they won't be the quality that the fans expect.

The worrying bit is where he says 'It's proving to be tough to get the right quality of people at the right price."

Word of caution to Mr Lenagan.............your not going to get Australian or NZ internationals for peanuts. To get the best you've got to pay the best. Teams like Warrington, Leeds and Saints have manged this over the past few seasons so why not us?

I had huge sympathy for him when he took over because we all knew the mess that Lindsay had left our salary cap in and he did a good job of getting us back on an even keel but he promised that 2010 would be the year where we could start to sign world class talent again and even went on an advanced signing mission in 2008 to sign up players for 2010...........looks like that was a holiday put through the clubs books then

The thing is though top quality players are available but I think the point we should pay close attention to is "at the right price". I think the club have gone from being laid back with handing out big contracts to now being really over cautious with handing out contracts.

We don't seem to be able to find that balance.

Does seem to be something he isnt grasping.

I agree about us needing a big hard prop but still think we should keep Coley and Bailey just for one year. This will allow some stability and a settling in period for a new prop during 2010. Apparently Coleys wages are a lot less than Fekas and Fieldens anyway ( apparently by a long way if my messenger is correct , might be rumour!!) so even at a reduced rate it should not break the bank to offer him a new contract. It seems mad to get rid of him too early as then this puts alot of pressure on the new big enforcer prop if he is left to play alongside a pack that imo are weaker without Coley. By 2011 then get rid of Coley and Fielden and bring in another top clas prop. Does anyone remember the year that we got rid of lots of players, Cassidy, O'Connor etc??icon_confused.gif

I think Bailey should stay for some of the above reasons too and Phelps.
Not sure if Coley is going to sign for Wire or Saints though this rumour keeps raising its head and my little bird is usually correct.

There are players out the who are OOC.
Karmichael Hunt and Steve Price. It would cost the best part of £500-600k to bring them over.
That's two players costing a third of the salary cap and the other two thirds going on 22 players.
So you have to settle for something less and that's what Saints, Wire and Leeds are doing.
We have to get there yet!
We are all just so fed up with the uncertainty.
Uncertainty over the coach, same with signings or the lack of them.

We've had a pperiod now where the club has shown players and their agents that they won't be handing out daft contracts anymore and won't be used as a bargaining tool to get them new deals at their current cubs.

I think that period of changing the clubs reputation will have stood us in good stead long term but now is the time to start signing one or 2 high profile signings again.

We don't need anymore then 2 players for next year but they do have to be top quality and to get those you have to pay a good wage. We can easily make that room available with a couple of players already gone and the option to let 4 more go so we can't use cap space as an excuse.

It really irritates me this nonsense that some people have made up - we should sign Andy Coley and Phil Bailey for 'stability' or 'continuity'.

We don't need stability we need improvement! Teams like Saints and Leeds at the top can fall into the category of keeping players for stability and continuity but not us. We've been average all season and are AGAIN miles away from the top two. The pack has been identified by every sod on this forum as an area we need to improve on. So I fail to see how just re-signing these players like Coley and Bailey will improve the squad at all. If we want some stability at being average then by all means sign away but if we want to improve the squad and challenge the top two we are going to have to either promote players from within of better quality or spend and make some signings.

This pap from IL that top quality players are not available at the right price just makes him look a fool. I would love for him to elaborate and tell me what the right price is. Your not going to get international stars for Richie Mathers, Karl Pryce, Cameron Phelps wages! I don't even think we need international stars from the NRL. The super league is at such a low standard the fringe players would be good enough. Carl Webb would be a quality replacement for Andy Coley. He would be a vast improvement. No he wouldn't be the enforcer required but it would be a start. We can wait to Fielden comes off contract, more money to spend and look again.

We need a replacement for Gareth Hock and Phil Bailey. Had that incident with Gareth Hock not happened we could have promoted from within to replace Phil Bailey. We can still do this but not for Gareth Hock. We have lost a lot of go forward and creativity with Gareth Hock. We need a replacement. Frank Puletua and David Kidwell are exactly the type of (off contract) players that could replace him. Both are in the Tony Puletua mould that we really need.

Neither do I. The quote ""It's proving to be tough to get the right quality of people at the right price." covers a multitude of possibilities.

Are Riddell and Roberts the right quality for the right price? I guess they must be as he brought them to the club but they are not top quality in my book.

If they are not then why did this not apply?

"There's obviously a pressure from those fans who want to see new signings, but if they're not the right signings you're better off to wait."

So if he really is after class players this time but isn't prepared to pay the going rate I would expect no recruits at all. Otherwise if he goes for a lower standard of player then this statement "There are a lot of players around but what we have to make sure is those we sign are top quality." is meaningless.



Carmont is a none federation player and I am pretty sure unlike Bailey cannot apply to get such status once his contract expires as he arrived after the rules came in - I think.

Dave

I'd re-sign Coley but not Bailey tbh.

Coley can cover back row and we need some size to our pack. After that i'd want to be bring in a world class prop and a halfback in that order.