so why are you having a go?

Have you been watching 'The Footy Show' ?

The Australians have regularly questioned the slowing down of the game over there. The slowing down at the ruck and the constant referral to the video referee.



Wigan have won more trophies than any other British RL Club even if you don't take into account the trophies won in that decade, to claim the honours are nothing special is preposterous.

That's professional sport when you get to the highest level.

There is room for flair, however it has to be done at the right time rather than all the time. Very few teams are able to play with flair and win things consistently.

Saints have done well not following your theory. Leeds also.

Stats last year showed these 2 teams as having made more mistakes than most other teams.

Saints don't play with the flair they did in the early 2000's, as defences got better (and they have) that kind of play stopped working. We are far more workmanlike than we used to be.

I'd also say that Leeds and Saints in the last few years have been far better than most other clubs, this year when they've been off form and made too many mistakes both teams have been beaten.

you meen theres an atmosphere flippin eck

Brett you keep harping on about the salary cap and it being the reason why you think the standard has dropped.I remember when the salary cap was first introduced and that wigan had an exemption and could spend nearly 1 million more than the rest of the competition .Where did it get you exactly????Nowhere .So spending more doesnt necessarily meen better quality.
Also you quote " have watched the game again. and it's dross. No creativity, lot's of effort yes, but little class."
This may be so for wigan .On friday against warrington you constantly slowed the play of the ball by constantly lying on and niggling in the tackle,stopping warrington from playing.You might be watching dross at the jjb ,but for the rest of us the game is great to watch..

Quite right, Leeds pre CC are a classic example of a team that spent a lot of money, but didn't get get the rewards (generally)








Keep telling yourself that, if you say it enough times [isome[/i people will think it's true.



Like most Stains fans you miss the point I make re the CC. It's not about Wigan, Stains, Leeds or ANY specific club. It's about rewarding ambition, effort and application.

The CC does the opposite.

how ironic. Super League isn't as good to watch as it used to be. the same can be sid about the NRL. the difference is that the standard of play has increased over there whereas here it's gone the other way. the number of knock ons, missed tackles and handling errors in the two televised games at the weekend highlighted that.
this has nothing to do with wigan losing. we didn't deserve to win, end of.

Wigan borough has a lot bigger population than 80k.

Yes but in that you have stains and wire and leigh fans

What an idiotic post. Would you have spouted the same drivel when Wigan were down in the second division ( I know it`s a lot of years back now ).
But what you are saying is that you want the riff raff keeping down at the bottom of the league so the big spending clubs can hammer out thrashings every other week to the bottom half clubs.
At least when you go to a game now you are not certain of the outcome, and the team that under performs on the day suffers.
I wonder if all this from the Wigan fans is down to the lack of success on the field, and you think you have a divine right to be on top of the pile.

Salary cap crucified Wigan. Simple as that. for those knowledgeable enough to remember, Wigan had to lose 17 internationals over 3 years without the spending ability to replace any of them.

it has made for a very competative competition but the standard of rugby is not better now than it used to be.

Back it the 80's and 90's, Wigan were capable of competing with anybody, even the Aussie national team. not a single club over here would get close to them now.

Our game is stale in UK and not progressing at all. You only have to look at the world cup to see that.