The inclusion of Sinfield for England depends on who the half backs are, neither Wilkin, O'loughlin or Burgess can play at loose while as a deputy 6. Hopefully Pryce will be nowhere near starting at 6 which leaves McGuire/Tomkins and Burrow/Myler as half backs, by watching Leeds you can see if McGuire and Burrow are used together they need an organiser and a passer not to mention Sinfields awesome kicking game both in hand and conversions.

I dont think Englands half backs are good enough to have a big loose we need a ball handling loose and Sinfield is by far our best option in that department.

No, im saying that Sinfield is better than O Loughlin. Far far better. In fact, one is a champion player, a true leader and one that backs it up time after time in a big game, stearing his players around the park and comming up with the big plays. The other is a second rower who is a good tackler.

So were as he been in the biggest games of them all called INTERNATIONAL ?

Sinfield is not fit to wipe O'Loughlins ! Watch our game against Hull KR and you will see that Lockers is not just a good defender but he is one of the best players to have in the line of attack. Sinfield is a good player like Pryce but not good enough to play the aussies, I would play him at hooker if we were desperate and thats about it.

You'd play sinfield at hooker?

In Super League Sinfield is far better than Lockers. His 40-20 turned the grand final around for me, and it's decisions like that that make him a better loose the Lockers. If you are losing a super league game and you need someone to turn it round, I would rather have Sinfield in my side that Lockers.

However

If I was in an international, I would rather have Lockers, he tackles hard, can hit a gap as well as having an average kicking game (we wouldn't be relying on him, but he could step up if needed)

Sinfield has had his chance at international, and I'm sure even an honest Rhinos fan will tell you that he has failed miserably. After all, who was loose when we beat the Aussies in sydney?? I think you will find it wasn't Sinfield

I have to agree with this - our half backs do not have a kicking game regardless of who we pick there. Sinfield kicked Saints to death at the weekend - IMO his long kicking game was probably the difference between the two sides. While he doesn't offer the same attacking or defensive presence as O'Loughlin we can't afford to go into an international series with no long kicking game or recognised goal kicker. Lockers is a better rugby player but not what the GB team needs at 13.

O Loughlin has never done anything against the aussies yet is exempt from a wigan fans criticism :s

There is a reason why Sinfield is captain of the best team of the SL era and O Loughlin is running around like a headless chicken, trying to be a leader at a mid table SL team.

You are Lockers and i claim my £5

You've only just realised????

ha ha ha ha thats the best joke on any forum, nice one should be a stand up commiedian

Is That one of these??

I can't remember who said it but comparing Sinfield to O'Loughlin is not easy - however here is my attempt.


Kevin Sinfield

Okay, he's the captain of arguably the best team in the SL era - you can't be a bad player to have this status, and any die-hard Lockers fan must admit this. In SL some of the things he comes up with are spectacular (40metre passes, 40/20 kicks from impossible positions), these actions spark his team into life from cardiac arrest sometimes, without Sinfield Leeds often look a shadow of the team they are.

Sinfield as an international, for whatever reason he has not and quite possibly will not repeat his SL reputation against the likes of Australia and New Zealand. Is it the players he's playing with? Maybe but I doubt it. The opposition is key to the reason.

NRL defense is based around speed of the line moving up, SL yes can be quick in that respect but more often than not the line is slow to move, this gives Sinfield (and many other players) more room to make things happen - change to international and suddenly instead of say 6metres to do something, Sinfield has 3 metres.

Sinfield has never really struck me as a player with lots of attacking capabilities - his passes and 40/20 kicks when done look great but he doesn't strike me as the kind of organisational player who organises his team, run's the lines to break defenses, puts big tackles in - this brings me onto O'Loughlin.

Sean O'Loughlin

Captain of arguably the greatest name in world RL - again you can't be a bad player to achieve this. Wigan are currently a mid-table team, whether Wigan fan's would admit that or not, its true. However, we have reached 5 semi-finals with O'Loughlin as captain. Now some people would credit the semi-final appearences to other players - aka Barrett when he was here - but without leadership, which was clearly lacking in the coaching department, how can any team reach a semi-final?

How can any team go up to Leeds and beat them convincingly? How can any team come back from 30-0 down away at Bradford to win 31-30? Answer - no team.

O'Loughlin is a great all round player, in attack he's always looking for work and always very willing to do the hard graft and make the line breaking run's. He run's his blood to water even if he is played out of position, you could play him on the wing and he'd give nothing less than 100% (and I'm sure that is the same with Sinfield). He is not spectacular, nor is he the greatest ever, he simply does his job effectively for his team.

Defensively, run straight at him and you're in trouble, he can make some terrific tackles and really get his team up for the fight to win.

Internationally, I'd say he hasn't reached the heights (playing wise) he has at club level, then again not many have (with the exception of Morley, Fielden, Farrell etc) but he always put's in good performances.

Both Sinfield and O'Loughlin are two very different players, both the same position but they play their game differently, comparing the two not easy to do because of this.

quite a good review of the 2 players there,but you missed the most important part off regarding lockers
injured yet again !