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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"Look at the name 'loose forward' it's not fixed into a set position it is position which is versatile to suit the needs of the team. Even the positional play of a 13 can be adapted and changed to benefit the team.
Hanley was a 'ball playing 13' excellent idea, allows the team to play with the 6 as a second receiver off the 7, with the 13 standing at the other side of the play the ball allowing split halves.
Dallas Johnson is a tackle machine 13, again excellent idea, takes a unique player who can practically do 80mins tacking everything that moves, pin-pointing where the opposition are attacking and helping out anywhere on the pitch, excellent if your team needs than extra help in defense. Again requires a smart player who can read the game defensively and fix the issue.
Paul Gallen is outstanding, like many teams Cronulla like to operate with 3 props on at one time, the strike on the other team therefore is more damaging and stronger down the centre. Gallen is that impressive he can do this for 60-80 mins, he has got hands and tackles up very well. A player with such a combo of attributes is very VERY valuable to their team.
Ideally you would like to find that player who can cover most of said areas, personally I think we have in Lockers, a player I highly rate.
Can he be a ball playing 13? Yes. Played in the halves, carried us around the park against Hudds earlier this season-was excellent.
Can he tackle like Dallas Johnson? Yes. Outstanding defensively, our teams top tackler? perhaps. And always plays big mins.
Does he take the ball in like a prop? No, HOWEVER always puts in the hard yards and takes the ball in as good as the best.
Looking at changing positions personally I think James Graham would makes an excellent 13. Good hands excellent work rate and takes the ball up time and time again, closest thing we have to Gallen, similar to how on occasion Sam Burgess has played 13 for the rabbits.
Back to McM, I believe he could be a defensive 13, good work rate and can tackle up, a hooker, he is not.'"
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| Quote Pemps="Pemps"It's not just over there though. look at Harrison at Wire & Langley at Bradford.'"
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| Quote Vectrabeast="Vectrabeast"What, average loose forwards?
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the problem with the obsession with loose forwards is that most of us have been spoiled by watching Ellery and Faz grace the 13 shirt for years.
the only thing close i can think of is Scully.
Lockers isnt any of those 3, but hes a close 4th
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| Quote wigan pie man="wigan pie man"
another question........"would Sam be good at switching to 9 for short spells?"'"
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Didn't we score our tries today when Mickey Mac was on the pitch?
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Any injury update on MM?
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He had a dead arm. Came back on though IIRC?
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He came back on towards the end, I think they said it was a dead arm.
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Credit where its due. He was much improved today. We didn't have that 'dip' while he was on the field.
His defence was brutal as always but his distribution was superb IMO. He was unlucky not to get a few pens for running at markers not stood square.
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| Quote Odemwingie="Odemwingie"Credit where its due. He was much improved today. We didn't have that 'dip' while he was on the field.
His defence was brutal as always but his distribution was superb IMO. He was unlucky not to get a few pens for running at markers not stood square.'"
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| Quote The Ginger Pearl="The Ginger Pearl"Yep, it was the perfect game for him. A defence based game where special moments of attack were very limited because of the high standards of defence.'"
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