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Quote: SaintsFan "I didn't at any point disagree that Foster is physically less strong than Charnley, did I? In fact, I have stated quite clearly that this is a difference and it has a bearing on kick returns because of the strength needed to push defenders back as well as goal line defence. This weakness in Foster is acknowledged by all Saints fans. It's not something he can help, though. As you suggest, it's genetics.

Oh, Foster is fast. In fact, he really surprised us against the Crusaders, I think it was, when he made a hurtling run to catch a breakaway attack. He caught up and was fast. That was the first time any of us had seen him run flat out. He's about 6ft (187cm). How much taller does he need to be? The line breaking thing is again to do with his natural physique.

He has fantastic positioning sense. You really haven't seen him play much, have you!'"


Firstly you need to quit being so defensive, at no point did I say he had poor positioning I said this can be coached to get better it is an area of a game that he can improve on, even the best players in the world can improve. His footwork is also pretty good but again coaching can improve this.

Regards his pace I do not think I called him slow, just that nothing physically makes him stand out from the pack, this is what separates the good, from the great in the outside backs.

Foster will always be in the bunch of players physically who do not have the attributes to be great players, he lacks that which cannot be coached.

Charnley has the x factor physically that could see him emerge as a real talent on the wing/outside backs.

What I do hope is that Foster continues kicking those goals as this will inflate his wage demands over the years and while not being a special player could see him take up much more cap space than his talent all round is worth, a bit like Paul Wellens.

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Silly transfer rumour seasons started early this season? Normally get to at least August.

Foster to Wigan Never.
Matt King to Wigan Never.

Anymore I may of missed? Long to Wigan?

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Tell you what lets give it 5 years.

I don't see Charnley making it in a top side in 5 years time.

Where as Foster I can see being around for as long as he wants to, assuming Union don't come a knocking.

Bias is great and you can argue till the sun goes down. But in the end time and history are the only 2 tests that a player can be measured against. Personally I rate Foster as having alot more to his game than Charnley. Charnley maybe a touch faster, but it's not like he is Usane Bolt.

And lets not forget the biggest thing holding Charnley back has nothing to do with talent.











He plays for Wigan!!!!

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Quote: bewareshadows "Tell you what lets give it 5 years.

I don't see Charnley making it in a top side in 5 years time.

Where as Foster I can see being around for as long as he wants to, assuming Union don't come a knocking.

Bias is great and you can argue till the sun goes down. But in the end time and history are the only 2 tests that a player can be measured against. Personally I rate Foster as having alot more to his game than Charnley. Charnley maybe a touch faster, but it's not like he is Usane Bolt.

And lets not forget the biggest thing holding Charnley back has nothing to do with talent.











He plays for Wigan!!!!'"


Personally I'd sooner wait until the second SL season they've been exposed to fully before making prior assumptions.

People said Kevin Penny was brilliant in his first season icon_rolleyes.gif

Jeez, does every debate about a Wigan/Saints player have to end in a my Dads bigger than your Dad?

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Quote: bewareshadows "Tell you what lets give it 5 years.

I don't see Charnley making it in a top side in 5 years time.

Where as Foster I can see being around for as long as he wants to, assuming Union don't come a knocking.

Bias is great and you can argue till the sun goes down. But in the end time and history are the only 2 tests that a player can be measured against. Personally I rate Foster as having alot more to his game than Charnley. Charnley maybe a touch faster, but it's not like he is Usane Bolt.

And lets not forget the biggest thing holding Charnley back has nothing to do with talent.











He plays for Wigan!!!!'"



so playing for the current superleague champions is holding charnley back? icon_confused.gif

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Quote: wiganstripleL "So playing for the current superleague champions is holding charnley back.

Exactly.


I'm glad you can see the point was making, glad you summed it up so nicely for me.

You seam to have had some errors with the capitals and fullstops though, so I've sorted that for you.

Always happy to help.

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Quote: 100% Warrior "Personally I'd sooner wait until the second SL season they've been exposed to fully before making prior assumptions.

People said Kevin Penny was brilliant in his first season


But my dad is bigger than your dad!!!

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Quote: jonh "Foster will always be in the bunch of players physically who do not have the attributes to be great players, he lacks that which cannot be coached.'"

Really? Do you know the winning lottery numbers this week as well please? I could do with the cash. Cheers.

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Quote: bewareshadows "Exactly.


I'm glad you can see the point was making, glad you summed it up so nicely for me.

You seam to have had some errors with the capitals and fullstops though, so I've sorted that for you.

Always happy to help.


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there is me thinking whenever you asked someone a question you finished it off with a question mark

i really cant see what point your trying to make.. please help me out abit.

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Quote: wiganstripleL "

I just assumed you where struggling with the fullstops, the same way you seam to be struggling with the capitals!

Nice double fullstop on that last post... Does 3 give it more of a terminal finish?

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Quote: bewareshadows "Exactly.


I'm glad you can see the point was making, glad you summed it up so nicely for me.

You seam to have had some errors with the capitals and fullstops though, so I've sorted that for you.

Always happy to help.


You're not really in a position to lecture people on their spelling or grammar.

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Quote: bewareshadows "But my dad is bigger than your dad!!!


Unusual, most Sintellins fans don't know who their Dad is eusa_whistle.gif

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Quote: WigansForeignLegion "Unusual, most Sintellins fans don't know who their Dad is

I know, I'm a cut above the average.

Which in Wigan makes me a flipping outlier at the top end of the bell curve.

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Quote: Smooth Stu "You're not really in a position to lecture people on their spelling or grammar.




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I had a funny feeling I should have checked before posting.

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Quote: bewareshadows "I just assumed you where struggling with the fullstops, the same way you seam to be struggling with the capitals!

Nice double fullstop on that last post... Does 3 give it more of a terminal finish?



i think your meaning SEEM.. you made the same mistake in your last post

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