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Quote: Conroy "I agree. Our 18 and 30+ point defeats were because of kicking
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Quote: Conroy "I agree. Our 18 and 30+ point defeats were because of kicking
I take it you watched the WCC?

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Regardless of Pat missing the start of the season, he's contribution to the team can be reviewed separately. This, as the OP states is about Hansen.

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Attention Dire fans and trolls: NOT on the bandwagon, despite the join date. Those of us who were forced to watch Dennis Moran play in Cherry & White deserved to see Lockers lift that trophy at Old Trafford. [img:3lpepmvq]http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/202cd4108c.jpg[/img:3lpepmvq] Saints aren't Scouse.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51755.jpg



Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Farrell is his direct replacement. Hansen was a starter and Faz on the bench, this naturally is a direct comparison when other factors like mins on the pitch and starts come into play.
Tuson only has 6 appearances to his name, his minutes are going to be vastly less.

Faz is the direct comparison, and as you can see is performing better. But you are naturally entitled to your opinion.'"


Faz isn't a replacement for Hansen, he's a teammate playing at just as high a level in the same squad week in, week out. If the subs bench in RL worked the way it did in football, then maybe you'd have a point. But in Rugby League, the 4 on the bench are just as much a part of the squad for the game as the 13 who start on the field.

If you roughly half HH's stats seeing as he'd played 11 compared to Tuson's 6, he still performs consistently better.

And Madge made 2 changes to the 17 the week after Hansen got injured. Joel and Harrison out, Tuson and Goulding in. Surely that's the definition of DIRECT replacement? Or am I missing something?

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "I take it you watched the WCC?'"


Ah yes. So we missed 4 kicks that day that cost us did we? Here's me thinking they were the better side and scored more tries than us eusa_think.gif .

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We DREW this game with a last minute KICK by Sam Tomkins. You sure Pat would have kicked them all?

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Quote: Lucky XIII "Faz isn't a replacement for Hansen, he's a teammate playing at just as high a level in the same squad week in, week out. If the subs bench in RL worked the way it did in football, then maybe you'd have a point. But in Rugby League, the 4 on the bench are just as much a part of the squad for the game as the 13 who start on the field.

If you roughly half HH's stats seeing as he'd played 11 compared to Tuson's 6, he still performs consistently better.

And Madge made 2 changes to the 17 the week after Hansen got injured. Joel and Harrison out, Tuson and Goulding in. Surely that's the definition of DIRECT replacement? Or am I missing something?'"


Here's a little quiz question for you:

Hansen is a first team starter for Wigan, he gets injured. Who the following week starts in the 1-13 line up?
The answer will give you his direct replacement.

For an extra point: how many games have Wigan lost in his absence?

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Quote: Conroy "Ah yes. So we missed 4 kicks that day that cost us did we? Here's me thinking they were the better side and scored more tries than us
Funny. I thought that too. It'd appear we're both morons and must bow down to the wisdom of LSOW... a014.gif

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Quote: Lucky XIII "Funny. I thought that too. It'd appear we're both morons and must bow down to the wisdom of LSOW...

"Inbred" I believe is the correct term.

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Quote: Conroy "We DREW this game with a last minute KICK by Sam Tomkins. You sure Pat would have kicked them all?'"


Are you saying Pat is more likely to kick them than Sam?
Are you saying the man known as Superman doesn't do more than just kick? Do you remember where we had issues in the WCC?

Anyway, nice attempt to take me off the OP topic.

If you want to discuss the impact of Pat's absence we can do it in another thread.

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Quote: MattyB ""Inbred" I believe is the correct term.'"


I believe it is.

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Do you remember where we had issues in the WCC? '"


Our forwards? The fact they were better than us?

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Quote: Conroy "Our forwards? The fact they were better than us?'"


? What has this got to do with OP?

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Here's a little quiz question for you

The answer will not give his direct replacement. The answer will give a player regularly included in the same squad as him. Again, I reiterate my point about the subs bench. If it worked the way it did in football, with a very limited number, no chance to bring a subbed player back on and not being allowed to utilise your full bench, then yes, you would be correct.
However, that's not how Rugby League works, thankfully. If you start the game as one of the four on the bench, you're extremely likely to get just as much game time as the man who starts in your position on the pitch. That does not make you his replacement.

And for my extra point, I addressed that issue in my very first post on this thread

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "? What has this got to do with OP?'"


You asked the question.

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