Sorry, but when you headbutt someone there's something in it.

2 from 6 today for Josh, only blip on our recent performances. Don't want to be too harsh on the lad because he's playing excellently apart from his goalkicking, but his success rate is unacceptable and could easily have cost us, thankfully it hasn't. I make it just over 50% success rate which when you think Pat is usually around the 80% mark is a massive hit on points for us.

He can kick but to say he lacks consistency would be a very big understatement.

Do the club have a kicking coach? Maybe it's time we brought one in and tap into his obvious potential.

I fail to see this potential. He doesn't look like a natural goal kicker.

We have Paul Deacon. Surely he has something to offer.

He does nail some tricky kicks which to me shows he can do it.

I think there is a huge difference between being a great kicker yourself and being able to coach a player to be one.

He's probably got something to offer in showing how he practised or cut the crowd out but can he break the skill down into its individual parts, analyze a kicking style and make little but fundamental tweaks to it?

I'd still get him in front of a kicking coach to try and improve the average. Not addressing the issue is uncharacteristically unprofessional for Wigan.

Some time he seems to strike them very well and some times he seems to get his technique all wrong and he seems to slice across it. Could well be a mental issue and he just doesn't like the extra pressure. I think Sam should kick against Widnes though.

As much as it hasn't cost us so far, it's an issue that definitely needs addressing. If Pat ends up out longer than anticipated we'd be going in to the back end of the season with clashes for top spot, CC semi and potential final and SL play-offs with a ~50% goalkicker, it will cost us eventually.

I meant to start a thread last week in relation to Hughes but never did. I thought he was the standout backrower in the Leeds game, and watching him again today I thought the same again. He's becoming more comfortable and confident the more game time he receives, and it's showing in his performances. Tall, athletic, strong, quick, he's got the whole package.

It was hardly a headbutt. Mountain out of a molehill.

Yeah but if Bailey had made a molehill then he would have gotten off scot free.

Dont you get it?

They are all out to get us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!