I'm guessing the photo you're referring to is the one posted on here a few times that shows Joel's left palm in Yeaman's face as opposed to leading with the elbow. Wire got Carvell off the hook after the incident in the Cas game by saying an open hand proved he wasn't trying to injure the player, whereas a closed fist would have suggested that he was. By that same reasoning, Joel's hand is what forces Yeaman's head back which is visible when watching the incident back (but the left hand is obscured), and since his palm is open it's a poor attempt at a fend and not malicious, using the same argument that Smith used to defend Carvell.

what goes against joel though is it's straight after another incident which makes it look intentional.
One game should be enough, lovin chuff it's a full contact all in game, lets not water it down so much it ends up being a tag game.

I think that could go either way, although the RFL seem to be at least attempting to be a little tougher on foul play this year so they could be a bit more harsh.
You could either view it as Joel going in for retaliation after a fight, deliberately raising the arm to strike Yeaman and use that as an aggravating factor, or say that emotions were running high after receiving several blows from the player a minute or so earlier (Yeaman was the aggressor and instigator of the brawl) and that he was determined to run the ball in as hard as possible but in the heat of the moment went for power in the collision and sacrificed technique. That seems to be how Maguire viewed it and I'd be inclined to agree.
It should either be a send off sufficient or 1 match ban. I couldn't argue with either as it's open to interpretation. It's Sam Tomkins who I'm most disappointed with and who I imagine will be much harder to defend.

I'd like to see main aggressors in a fight get the bin and leave it at that, if it's a little more serious red card and 1 match ban should be enough.
Whether the RFl like to admit it or not the fans like a little bit of biff, give them a touch of room and don't be so draconian.
I don't want the game turning in to UFC but come on RFL don't turn it in to basketball, we have the bin so lets use it.

When is the outcome of disciplinary usually announced? I know it's today, but I'm wondering ruffly when? I've got it in my head that it's usually around 5pm.

I want to be near the computer you see, so I can then see this board go into meltdown, no matter what the outcome of the case.

To be honest, 75% of the fights are embarrassing. They're not quite the handbags that footballers deal in, but they're hardly professional boxers either. In my opinion if you're going to fight, do it right, or not at all.

Do us a favour and tell Steve Ganson . Sin bin to cool off so it doesnt cause any silly moments like Sunday is exactly how it should be handled.

Has Joel had any previous for getting banned for similar incidents?

If not, could that go in his favour when deciding the length of any ban given?

Two previous warnings and then a guilty verdict last season (no ban just a fine) for the late hit on Myler after he scored, so he won't get any leniency for a clean record this time.

So that's a fortnight on the sidelines for him then.

Not fussed about Joel in all honesty with Tuson waiting in the wings but Sam is obviously not replaceable.

Bit short sighted that though, without a good pack bossing the game even the best backs can look pretty ineffective.

True, but if you had to pick a position for us to be a player short - 2nd Row is by far the position we'd select.

Without Joel we still have Tuson, Farell, Hansen and Hoffman who can play there.

If Deacs is injured, and Sam suspended we have 1 eligible senior Halfback at the club.

Match on Hull FC TV, again this only shows the second incident.

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