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After playing uphill both ways at Batley

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[quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]TBF he's a good lad Snowy. A wind up merchant but a good lad. :lol:[/quote] [quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]That sig snowy is Ssooooooooooo old !!![/quote] OOpps - nowt changes !! [b]Widnes 8 Leigh 10 LOL!!! Leigh 23 Widnes 16 LOL!! Leigh 30 Widnes 16 LOL!! Widnes 18 Leigh 38 Oh Dear !! Leigh 54 Widnes 16 FFS!!! Leigh 50 Widnes 18 We gave them 3 tries !!! Widnes 18 Leigh 24 Still no points in the 2nd half!! Good luck Widnes. See you in 2015 !![/b]:8043.jpg



Quote: MattyB "We need to put in a good performance against Leigh (who will be massively up for this game), shame it's not on Friday evening as you could probably add another 2-3k to the gate.

If we can put in a good performance and come away with the victory it will set us up nicely for Good Friday. If we don't then these three games could really put a spanner in the works for the season.

I thought the two 'niller' games we had were showing signs of some good rugby, but then have gone backwards a little.

Let's hope we have a dry week before Thursday as I'd be confident we can do Leigh out wide. Should be a cracker though, they will be proper up for it.'"


I think we need a bigger boat !!! Only East stand tickets left and a scattering of West Stand.

Bring back Hilton Park !!! icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Snowy "I think we need a bigger boat !!! Only East stand tickets left and a scattering of West Stand.

Bring back Hilton Park !!!
Brilliant for the game if it's near enough a sell out on a Thursday

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Cut out the errors and we'll be o.k
2nd best attack and best defence in the league so far. However we do seem to find it easier to score from 50 metres out than ten and we're conceding more penalties this season than last but that could be down to the way the game is being refereed at this time.'"


The number of errors so far this season is probably our biggest issue but this is quickly followed by consistently poor starts, pedestrian ptb, inability to dominate opposing packs and the lack of urgency for the majority of minutes.

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Cut out the errors and it goes a long way to fixing all of those other issues.

Another 13 errors on Friday which we were averaging before kick off.

At least we're consistent.

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The lack of an effective attacking shape for the majority of the game was a big concern on Friday. On a number of occasions I think Harry Smith flung the ball to the centre on the last play through sheer frustration that the set had been completely ineffective. Would prefer him to start utilising the grubber kick through more.

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Quote: MadDogg "The lack of an effective attacking shape for the majority of the game was a big concern on Friday. On a number of occasions I think Harry Smith flung the ball to the centre on the last play through sheer frustration that the set had been completely ineffective. Would prefer him to start utilising the grubber kick through more.'"


That frustrated me. I understand they ask them to play what they see but the worrying part was what was he seeing. The one I remember was the Wardle one and it was a fully set Salford line. We showed we could hold Salford back to their own 20 why didn’t he at least kick for touch. He is a good player but he needs to become more consistent in his decision making . I say consistent as he had it in his locker aka the CC final. I’m sure she will be the only thing that brings it on

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Quote: moto748 "I'd almost be grimly satisfied with 1 out of 3, and delighted with 2 out of 3.'"

Same here a testing few weeks I fear]

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Quote: moto748 "I'd almost be grimly satisfied with 1 out of 3, and delighted with 2 out of 3.'"


Unless there is a significant improvement and if Leyth turn us over then 0 out of 3 wouldn’t be a total surprise.
If we do lose 3 then it could start to feel like 2021 again.
We seem to lack intensity and any sense of urgency at the moment.
Hopefully Leyth will reawaken a bit grunt form our protected pack. Cooper , Ellis and Byrne need to significantly improve their recent performances. I think Mago currently, is incapable of stepping up.
The first 10 minutes against Leyth will tell us how we will go in the next 3 matches.

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Shorrocks back at Wigan, could be in the squad for Leigh. Even if he's not selected, it still weakens Leigh.

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Quote: CM Punk "Shorrocks back at Wigan, could be in the squad for Leigh. Even if he's not selected, it still weakens Leigh.'"


Would like to see him get a game vs. Leigh. Think this would be the best opportunity he will have had to prove his worth long term at Wigan and potentially cement his place as a first choice in the team. I have been vocal in my opinions of him in the past on here and i still think there is a good player in there somewhere, he has shown glimpses of his potential in the past just not consistently enough. He must be getting to a point with us though where it is now or never.

Would be up for him starting in that contested second row position or even loose forward with smithies moving over to the second row, surely the loan out to Leigh should have been enough to ignite the spark in him and push him forward, if there is one there.

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Defensively we appear to be pretty solid, I think RG said we have the best in the league. We have plenty to work on in attack which doesn't surprise me with two new centres really I never expected us to be fluid, but I'm confident we have enough in us to get 2/3 and hopefully start to build some momentum. We've shown we can score points when we cut out the errors and complete.

The big question is whether we start with the Field/French 1 and 6 combo or keep that up our sleeve as a game changer.

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Quote: BoredWiganer "Would like to see him get a game vs. Leigh. Think this would be the best opportunity he will have had to prove his worth long term at Wigan and potentially cement his place as a first choice in the team. I have been vocal in my opinions of him in the past on here and i still think there is a good player in there somewhere, he has shown glimpses of his potential in the past just not consistently enough. He must be getting to a point with us though where it is now or never.

Would be up for him starting in that contested second row position or even loose forward with smithies moving over to the second row, surely the loan out to Leigh should have been enough to ignite the spark in him and push him forward, if there is one there.'"

He’s played backrow for Leigh and been decent so maybe he slots in there.

If he plays though I’d predict he’ll be in on the bench and come on for Smithies.

He’s got the best passing game of all our “middles” so could help our clunky attack and get the ball to the edges quicker.

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Quote: NSW "He’s played backrow for Leigh and been decent so maybe he slots in there.

If he plays though I’d predict he’ll be in on the bench and come on for Smithies.

He’s got the best passing game of all our “middles” so could help our clunky attack and get the ball to the edges quicker.'"


I agree that his most likely position in the squad will be the bench, if at all. We may have brought him back solely for the reason that it stops Leigh from playing him.

His passing game is the reason that i want him in at loose working as an extra pivot, i did notice that leigh have been playing him as a second row after starting loose forward in the first game, i took this as playing him to fit the teams needs as opposed to where they see him best since he was getting praise for the first game. I could be wrong on that though.

Not trying to bag on Smithies in any way as he had a great season last time around at loose, but i don't think he is what we need in that role at the moment and would serve us just as well, if not better slotting into the right second row position. Whether it is Shorrocks or Powell to give us what we need at loose i don't know, but at this stage i think both are more interesting options that we should be exploring then Smithies.

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Quote: BoredWiganer "I agree that his most likely position in the squad will be the bench, if at all. We may have brought him back solely for the reason that it stops Leigh from playing him.

His passing game is the reason that i want him in at loose working as an extra pivot, i did notice that leigh have been playing him as a second row after starting loose forward in the first game, i took this as playing him to fit the teams needs as opposed to where they see him best since he was getting praise for the first game. I could be wrong on that though.

Not trying to bag on Smithies in any way as he had a great season last time around at loose, but i don't think he is what we need in that role at the moment and would serve us just as well, if not better slotting into the right second row position. Whether it is Shorrocks or Powell to give us what we need at loose i don't know, but at this stage i think both are more interesting options that we should be exploring then Smithies.'"

Ellis at loose is our best option imo. He takes it to the line in a similar fashion to SOL and has a good passing and offload game. We need to persevere with him instead of giving little cameos here and there though otherwise we will have no continuity and we'll continue to be clunky for longer.

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The only caveat is the weather for this Thursday.

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