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Considering just who we have out that's still a surprisingly strong 19. I've felt confident all week and even with the injury's within the squad I haven't changed my mind on that.

I'm with Bilko. We're gonna have relativley inexperienced bench so Lima coming on alongside some of these youngsters will help. I know we need to get off to a good start, but we can't give our all in the first 20 when there's another 60 to go, and expect kids to hold their own in arguably the toughest part of the match, the last quarter.

Quote: FearTheVee "it's not like Wigan have oodles of impact on the bench. '"

Quote: FearTheVee "

Clough
Magennis
Flannery
Flanagan'"


I we'd better watch out, because the Saints bench your proposing is littered with game breakers. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_wink.gif

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Quote: NickyKiss "We need to counter what have been strong starts by Saints in the past 2 weeks whilst not effecting our ability to keep a good lntensity level up during the game by having little impact coming off the bench. To do that I'd put Hock on the bench which will give us some impact from 20 mins on whilst ensuring the lad is fresh at the back end of the game should we be chasing it. I'd start Tuson who works overtime in defence but doesn't add a great deal from the bench ahead of Hughes who's a big, athletic lad who will trouble them around the edges later on.

Tomkins
Charnley Goulding Carmont Richards
Finch Leuluai
Prescott McIlorum Lima
Hansen Tuson O'Loughlin

Subs-
Dudson Hock Hughes Mellor

I'd be happy enough with that team infact I'm pretty excited by it.'"



My main concern with that is having Hock on the bench, I can see your reasons for it but why would you start one of Wigan's best players so far this year on the bench? He needs to start the game and help our forwards set a plat form early. My only changes to that would either Hock for Tuson or Hock for Prescott.

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Quote: LovesToSpooge "I we'd better watch out, because the Saints bench your proposing is littered with game breakers.
Which was PRECISELY the point I was making, if you'd care to actually read.

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Quote: LovesToSpooge "Considering just who we have out that's still a surprisingly strong 19. I've felt confident all week and even with the injury's within the squad I haven't changed my mind on that.

I'm with Bilko. We're gonna have relativley inexperienced bench so Lima coming on alongside some of these youngsters will help. I know we need to get off to a good start, but we can't give our all in the first 20 when there's another 60 to go, and expect kids to hold their own in arguably the toughest part of the match, the last quarter.

I we'd better watch out, because the Saints bench your proposing is littered with game breakers.
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Quote: FearTheVee "Which was PRECISELY the point I was making, if you'd care to actually read.'"

I have re-read it and concluded that you made a mistake by saying you'd play Puletua off the bench for impact, but in fact when naming the team you'd like to see, Puletua is instead named in the starting 13.

So which is it, Puletua either starts or comes off the bench? Because at present you've got both bases covered. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: 21-12 "/'"


I don't know what that means.

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Quote: LovesToSpooge "I have re-read it and concluded that you made a mistake by saying you'd play Puletua off the bench for impact, but in fact when naming the team you'd like to see, Puletua is instead named in the starting 13.

So which is it, Puletua either starts or comes off the bench? Because at present you've got both bases covered.
I literally have no idea what you're on about, I would suggest you read it a third time.

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Quote: FearTheVee "I literally have no idea what you're on about.'"


I don't to be honest. icon_biggrin.gif I'm juggling that many thinks at present there all going to pot, including this. icon_confused.gif

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Quote: LovesToSpooge "I don't know what that means.'"


I typed a reply, then re-read your post and saw that you'd already made the same point, so deleted it. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: LovesToSpooge "I don't to be honest.
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Don't worry, only two more sleeps icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: LovesToSpooge "I don't to be honest. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: 21-12 "Gelling and Spencer to miss.

1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Goulding
4. Carmont
5. Richards
6. Finch
7. Leuluai
8. Prescott
9. Micky Mac
10. Lima
11. Hansen
12. Hock
13. Lockers

14. Tuson
15. Hughes
16. Mellor
17. Dudson

Looking at the squad its likely Hock will move to prop at some point with Tuson in the second row. Dudson will interchange with Lima, unless he uses Tuson as a second hooker.

Very weak bench who ever misses out IMO, We need HUGE games from Prescott and Lima'"



I really don't think Prescott and Lima are going to be able to hold this side together. If I was Saints coach, I'd be bringing out the following pack

Perry Roby LMS
TP Sia
Flanaghan

This would be by far our most agressive pack and whilst your two boys maybe able to handle Perry and LMS, they cannnot cover all 6. It would be effectively like having to handle 4 props all at once and Sia, LMS and TP can all shift when they bust through. I doubt we will go with this as Wilkin is a certain to start, but even with Wilkin is does not stop the impact from our big 4. That would leave us with Flanaghan, Flannery, Clough and Megennis. Why maybe not household names they should be more than able to handle themselves at this level and Flanaghan inparticular can really crunch a few in the tackle. Both benches lack strike players, but our 4 can certainly hold the line and did so last week and the week before.

Hock would be the one player we will need to wrap up as he can create 2nd phase but we have tacklers who should be able to wrap him up man and ball.

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Yeah Lima and Prescott will need to handle a full pack because guys like Hock, Lockers and Hansen are mugs with no big game experience aren't they!

Jeez 2 wins bring 'them' out don't they!!

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im not sure people have seen much of mcilorum this year either, so hopefully hell make a statement on friday.

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Quote: bewareshadows "I really don't think Prescott and Lima are going to be able to hold this side together. If I was Saints coach, I'd be bringing out the following pack

Perry Roby LMS
TP Sia
Flanaghan

This would be by far our most agressive pack and whilst your two boys maybe able to handle Perry and LMS, they cannnot cover all 6. It would be effectively like having to handle 4 props all at once and Sia, LMS and TP can all shift when they bust through. I doubt we will go with this as Wilkin is a certain to start, but even with Wilkin is does not stop the impact from our big 4. That would leave us with Flanaghan, Flannery, Clough and Megennis. Why maybe not household names they should be more than able to handle themselves at this level and Flanaghan inparticular can really crunch a few in the tackle. Both benches lack strike players, but our 4 can certainly hold the line and did so last week and the week before.

Hock would be the one player we will need to wrap up as he can create 2nd phase but we have tacklers who should be able to wrap him up man and ball.'"


Game doesnt need playing then you've told us what's going to happen.

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