Talk of a new 7 to me is crazy. Tomkins is never a 6 hes a little general who will be an excellent 7 in time but at the moment hes not going to get a game their because TL is currently 1 of the better players in the squad.

We never replaced Barrett, a class 6 and having 3 7s will never work esp when Smith isnt worth a w#nk to us. Noble brought Smith in so the buck stops there with that 1.

NEXT, signed Roberts when everyone knows we needed a prop, Noble takes the blame for that one again.

Riddell, i think will be a good signing if we get someone with discipline in to coach, apparently all Piggy wants to do in training is act the mick. An IL signing not Nobles he wanted Randall so you cant blame Nobby for the signing.

Mathers, well its anyones guess why he was kept on, Lydon apparently said hes the worst full back hes seen in professional rugby.

Recruitment has been poor IMO, no balance to the signings, desperate for a forward but invested heavily in backs, Mathers, Smith, Phelps, Pryce, Roberts.

And who is in charge of recruitment? Alot of the players you mention, dont seem like BN signings to me.

The only signing ive been told BN didnt want was Riddell. We are crying out for a 6 and a big rough number 8 and a big spoon full of hard work. I understand why Noble said he expected Tomkins to get roughly 10 games this year, as cover for 7 if Tommy needed resting or he had to cover 9.

To sup up OP:

It was all Pryce's fault.

BN wanted Greg Bird - Thus a 6, he wasn't able to get him for various reasons, that still shows he wanted a 6. Why didn't he get one.

Ryles and numerous other props moved in the off season, why didn't we go for one.

These are questions that need to be answered. But they won't be, if there is even the slightest chance that IL will look bad.

In one-off games over the last couple of seasons we have proved we can compete, at least for a while.

BUT the team aren't coached well enough or properly conditioned to really shine even in one off matches and the lack of commitment and consistency so far this season are shocking. 3/10 is the winning ratio of a bad team.

This team, this club is a long way from being good. There is a massive problem at Wigan at the moment and a major clear out of coaching, playing and backroom staff is needed.

Roberts was signed 12 months too soon and only signed to stop him going somewere else. If hes a world class international pivot player then fair enough but IMO to do this for a decent NRL winger is bad management from whoever sanctioned the signing. Maybe Noble did realise we needed a good 6 (he should of we all did) so why would IL go for a winger? It all makes no sense to me.

Exactly, we already had wingers and fullbacks who could do the job that is currently being done, perhaps better.

This is why questions need answering - who sanctioned the signing?

I agree with you on that, and I think to a certain extent we have never replaced Fletcher either. We don't seem to have a player who will put his hand up time nad time agian. The last time I saw that was with Phelps agianst saints, but he can't keep his place!

I think Barrett papered over a lot of cracks for us, he took some stick in his second year from me, but now he's gone I realise how much he did. He was always 3 plays ahead of us, and we never ended up in the situation we did last night, with Roberts stood still on the wing, ball in hand, not sure what to do at all.

We won less than half our regular SL games last year - are you suggesting that's acceptable?

Is that what i said ?? i said we were winning games

Exactly.


We were in the hunt for a 6 and we got........a winger and more recently a centre (which good though I think Gleeson will be for us, was not a priority position imo).



It's clear to anyone that IL is championing "English born players". He hardly ever stops banging on about it.


Well that's all very well and good, but quite frankly we need a prop and a 6, just as we did at the start of the year. Whether they are English, Australian or Swedish is irrelevant.


The fans can see that, how difficult is it for the Managment/Coach to see it?

You implied that people shouldn't be whinging because we were winning games playing "boring rugby" last season. As I pointed out, we won less than half our regular SL games last season AND played boring rugby.

I got told something very interesting today off a very reliable source - regarding recruitment and it shed's new light on the situation at Wigan.

Not too sure if I should post it up on here but I'll gladly PM.

Give us a clue of what you've heard