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Quote: rubber duckie "On the contrary...Wigan have dragged themselves off the floor punching...Lam was dealt a terrible hand with a semi decimated team. This season is very much Lammies finest hour whether Wigan get to a GF or not.'"

This season will always go down as a season of transition regardless of us winning anything or not.

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Your last sentence is bang on mate. If Saints don’t win it then it’s another season of failure I’m afraid and Holbrook will be remembered as a coach who flopped on the big stage.

As for Wigan, if you don’t win it then I’d also say your season has been a failure too. A season without a trophy should always be seen as a failure for clubs like ours, regardless of the fact you started slow and were struggling a few months ago.'"


I'm pretty sympathetic to that in fairness. We can't go round calling ourselves the biggest club in world rugby and be happy to come away with no pots.

Having said that, sometimes you have to make allowances for circumstances, look at direction of travel of the team, and adjust expectations accordingly. Having to cope with playing 2-3 kids in the pack for big minutes all season, coming to terms with a new way of playing after years of a very rigid style under Wane and dealing with the instability of earlier in the year were all big challenges that have been dealt with as well as we could've hoped for. Most of us are pleasantly surprised that we're well in with a shout, so if it turns out to be a failure it will be a pretty glorious one.

Push comes to shove, we lose a final/semi final we're not going to go around crowing about how good the season has been, but there are plenty of factors which make this a particularly challenging year for Wigan to come out on top. Next season will be different.

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Quote: Cherry_&_White "I'm pretty sympathetic to that in fairness. We can't go round calling ourselves the biggest club in world rugby and be happy to come away with no pots.

Having said that, sometimes you have to make allowances for circumstances, look at direction of travel of the team, and adjust expectations accordingly. Having to cope with playing 2-3 kids in the pack for big minutes all season, coming to terms with a new way of playing after years of a very rigid style under Wane and dealing with the instability of earlier in the year were all big challenges that have been dealt with as well as we could've hoped for. Most of us are pleasantly surprised that we're well in with a shout, so if it turns out to be a failure it will be a pretty glorious one.

Push comes to shove, we lose a final/semi final we're not going to go around crowing about how good the season has been, but there are plenty of factors which make this a particularly challenging year for Wigan to come out on top. Next season will be different.'"


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Quote: Smalls "You’ve actually had two and Wakefield one.
So your wrong. Again.'"



And Hull FC had one.

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Which other Warrington born halfback other than Bobbie Fulton is an Aussie Immortal then?

I've just had a refresher look and I'm pretty sure only Bobby Fulton was British born.

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Quote: rubber duckie "Which other Warrington born halfback other than Bobbie Fulton is an Aussie Immortal then?

I've just had a refresher look and I'm pretty sure only Bobby Fulton was British born.'"


So it’s just a grasp of basic English and stringing together coherent scentences that is your issue?

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List here

https://www.2gb.com/nrl-drops-immortals-bombshell/

St Helens had one in big Mal
List here

https://www.2gb.com/nrl-drops-immortals-bombshell/

St Helens had one in big Mal


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Thanks...
The town of Warrington has the only British born player in the Aussie Immortals.

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Quote: rubber duckie "Thanks...
The town of Warrington has the only British born player in the Aussie Immortals.'"


It's a pity they've never produced any for England.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "It's a pity they've never produced any for England.'"

Is that what you mean, Brian.

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But he wasn't a halfback

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Quote: MattyB "And Hull FC had one.'"

I assume you mean Peter Sterling, sorry he wasn't.

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Quote: wigginswarrior "Is that what you mean, Brian.'"


Yes, now edited. Thank you. icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: wigginswarrior "But he wasn't a halfback'"

..and neither was he British.

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Quote: rubber duckie "Most definitely Phuzzy
I make no excuses for the poor yield from my town.
However we are the only town in the history of RL to have an NRL Immortal at halback.'"


This is what you said

You didn't say "Born" in the town
You didn't say born in a British town, so there plenty of Australian "Towns" that have had them.

You need to be much clearer when you respond otherwise people will reply to your actual words, not what you may have been thinking.

In other words when when you said 5 games ago the the Wolfs wouldn't lose another game, you were wrong.
What you may have meant is that they wont lose another game as long as it's the challenge cup final, then you would have been right.

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