So through no choice of your own, you’ve had games with 5 or 6 players missing since the start of Holbrooks first season? I think that’s a myth on your part but feel free to prove otherwise (and focus on the through no choice of your own part, as in you haven’t rested people).

Even if you can drag a single game here or there up, it certainly won’t be over a sustained spell and that’s what other teams have to deal with.

I’ll give you a start actually on one game you did have 5 or 6 players missing from-

England vs The Combined Nations All Stars

June 25th 2021

No need to thank me

It's blindingly obvious that injuries will weaken us more than Wigan because for us we will be replacing top quality with squad filler whereas Wigan will largley be replacing average with average bar a couple of positions.

Put another way, if Saints lost our 5 best (say Walmsley, Lomax, Knowles, Welsby and Roby) and Wigan lost five of their best also (say Field, French, Mago, Bateman, Powell for example) I'd back whatever XVII Saints fielded vs Wigan. So I'm not sure the depth thing really plays out.

Makinson, Simm, Percival, Hurrell, Grace, Hopoate, Dodd, Paasi, Lussick, Lees, Matautia, Bachelor, Bell and Sironen/LMS/Amor and Wingfield/Norman - that looks stronger than any Wigan team missing it's five best IMO.

So these games you’ve had 5 or 6 players missing from with injuries?

**Ignoring not letting players turn out in a fixture that was raising funds for a disabled ex player of your club**

I don't need to trawl through 3 years of fixtures to prove anything. I am not the one making things up and passing them off as facts.

As for the 2nd bit, we've been there and done it with that England game. You have zero to back it up, just your bitter little tears.

You don’t need to trawl through anything, you said it was a myth that you hadn’t had games with 5 or 6 missing with injuries, so you know it’s a fact that you have and therefore you must have these games/spells in your head already, surely? Either that or you were just guessing that it was a myth.

Which is it?

I remember quite a few times in the last 2-3 years where we've been missing 5 or so. Do I have the specifics to hand? No. Do I need to? No.

As I say, I'm not the one creating hypothetical scenarios to score points. I'll stick with facts and actual rugby matches that take place on a field, not in your mind.

EDIT: Quick search on Saints website turns up a game v Hull last year where we won rather convincingly without Makinson, Grace, Bentley, Lees and Wingfield. All injured. As I said, myth.

So you remember them but don’t have them to hand

“Yes m’lord I recall where I was when you say I robbed that post office but I don’t have the details to hand”

Wingfield

One game, one game and including a reserve to make it 5. A proper crisis that pal

Heard Edna the tea lady did her back reaching for a pack of digestives as well pre game, so make it 6

Who is Wingfield?

Did I? The whole facts and myths thing is getting to you. I asked you to come up with all these times you’ve had 5 or 6 (plus missing) and you throw one game at me and include a bloody reserve

Thanks for proving the point.

That whole point has always been about how teams have to deal with an injury crisis (which I’d class as a regular period of missing 5 or 6 (plus) first choice players) and Saints never have.

I don’t know why that point gets to Saints fans so much. There’s nowt wrong with being lucky.

I think it’s that Danish girl who sang that ‘Saturday Night’ song back in the 90’s.

She missed Hull at home apparently.