Conspiracy theories make male one wonder if they jumped before being pushed because of this?

I saw a screenshot of a text message conversation last night in which the barmaid said she couldn’t believe this got out and she was gutted. The reply said she had nothing to be gutted about as she had done nothing wrong and she responded by saying ‘they paid me a grand to delete it. The report in the WiganToday article says that the landlord made the club aware the next day and he went to meet the players with the bar staff and the players were very remorseful.

Yet she chose not to delete it. Go figure!

As I stated earlier I have no knowledge of what the process was.

All I can say is, that as an employer if someone makes an accusation against one of my staff I want evidence of it before I can act.

The interesting part is that the landlord made the club aware of this issue anumber of weeks ago. So did the club just say fair enough and look to sort it out internally as the landlord stated they had told him they would without any evidence?

Seems unlikely.

As for the last paragraph I hope my post reaches the very core of the club.

Something isn’t right and hasn’t been for some time.

I keep referring to culture and ours is a very poor one.

In the last few years we have stood by a serial drug taker, stood by a player who glassed a team mate, stood by a player that broke a member of the publics jaw and these are only the things in the public domain.

More worryingly the team even when they are winning play without any joy, and as soon as the NRL come knocking our players can’t wait to leave in recent years unlike many other clubs who retain their players despite the interest.

In my opinion Wane going is the best thing that could happen to the club.

A new broom needed with the playing staff and an opportunity for IL and KR to press reset and start again from a senior management position.

Can't argue with this. Perhaps this all centres around Wane (pure speculation) protecting players who he's fond of. Now it's all slowly unravelling.

You may be on the money, or you may not. I think we just need to accept that, for reasons the majority of us will never know, the club has clearly decided to make wholesale changes before next season. It may be that this costs us any kind of achievement in 2018. If so, that will be a damn shame ... but someone clearly considers this a necessary risk. My view is that endless conspiracy theorising will only make this a more painful experience than it needs to be (though I also recognise that this is a fact of life in the age of the internet). Let's at least remember that difficult decisions are not taken lightly, and that those responsible are generally making them because they want to see progress.

Cost us in 2018, it's cost us for years, Wane should have gone at the end of last year, and the management at Wigan are now reaping the seeds of keeping Wane on.

Wow, I came on here expecting to see comments like "fuss over nothing", "nothing more than you see in every pub on a Friday night", "this is being blown out of proportion because its us", but striking to see the strong position taken by Wigan fans over this. You obviously have high expectations of behaviour from those that wear the jersey and it shows how highly valued the duty of being a Wigan player is to the supporters. Fair enough those two were muppets but the Wigan fans on here are a credit to the club.

I don’t think the club have made any conscious decision to change things. I think certain variables have happened that will force the club to change things.

A long overdue change at that.

Don't know lad, just a suggestion on how people share media today..

She probably did delete it off her phone but she might not have the technical knowledge to delete it from the cloud if it went on YouTube or any other social media site or even know that once posted its out there in the wild so to speak, hard to get rid of and others may have copied it already.

Classic line from JT....

"You do look a scruff, really!"

The latest in Wigan today has Rads saying he saw the video on Saturday yet the landlord went to the club five weeks ago. At best this is a lackadaisical approach to investigating the incident if Rads didn't know there was a video and as a result of it surfacing [inow[/i it makes the club look bad for not acting sooner. The fact it's only issued the fines £5K Sam, 10K Joel) and suspended Joel for four week now just looks bad and a reaction to the video surfacing rather than part of a process. If as alleged the barmaid was offered a grand to delete it, whoever did that should be sacked. There should be no need for any such payoff if disciplinary action was being taken by the club. Yes the club might not like it of the video got out but the last way you would ensure that is with a backhander. Some sort of legal agreement with compensation on condition it was verifiably removed would be the only way you could do it officially but a grand payoff is the behaviour of a petty criminal.