Does it really matter who said it first?

No, not at all. I am referring to the suggestions that I was simply making up rumours for the sake of it. Which clearly, I wasn't.

You will notice i used the word "if". As i said at the time, i don't believe much i read here, if that upsets your delicate sensibilities..................... Tough titty!!

I wasn't referring to that post. And trust me, you couldn't upset me.

Glad to hear it...

Widnes seasons loan heard it here first.

Loan as opposed to sign....?

how can a castleford fan take the out of anyone.................they are the laughing stock of the league........

Yeah as Wigan dont want to really sell + Widnes couldnt afford the fee.

In the case of Hock a season long loan would make no sense at all. 1) Why loan him for no money when we could sell him and get some money for him as he is on a long contract. 2) If we are looking to get rid for whatever reason why set up a deal where he is back with us in a year's time anyway. 3) Why would Widnes, a club looking to make a sustainable push up the table and secure a place from 2015 by doing so use up a fair chunk of their wage bill on a player that they would not have in 12 months time thus setting their squad back to square one at the time that decision is made.

I can believe that we may want to offload him given the possible motives for us wanting to do so but can only see it being done (if indeed the club do want to offload him) by selling rather than loaning out.

My mission is to expose stupidity. Quite ironic in this case. Back on topic, are you going to keep your promise, eat some humble Pie?

If rumours are to be believed and he is a trouble causer, what club will want to stump up a substantial fee for someone they may be looking to offload or even sack in 12 months time? Wigan will struggle to get any sort of decent fee for him if he's trouble.

You're assuming that someone will buy him.

The Aus deal clearly didn't work out. Who does that leave who has so much space available under their cap?

danny tickle is signing for 2014 so really the cash we pay to hock wont be wasted as it will pay danny's wages when he comes.

Could some kind of Gentleman's Agreement have been made where he goes to Widnes for a year on loan, comes back to Wigan and then signs for Parramatta/other NRL team for 2014 for a fee?