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| Quote: Grimmy "I'm saying he's our best prop, but still wouldn't get in the Leeds team. If anything it singles out the rest of them. I like Coley but he's got too much work on his shoulders, hopefully next year we'll sack off Fielden and get a quality replacement.'"
Surely Fielden was our best prop of last year, didnt he make more tackles, Metre's and tackles bust with less carries. Than Coley. I've said all along we need to complement Fielden with another decent prop not get ride of him. Coley and Fielden starting @ 8 & 10 is a good start for me. Prescott & O'Carroll as the next pair. Feka needs to work a little bit harder IMO. |
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Quote: jjb10 "Surely Fielden was our best prop of last year, didnt he make more tackles, Metre's and tackles bust with less carries. Than Coley. I've said all along we need to complement Fielden with another decent prop not get ride of him. Coley and Fielden starting @ 8 & 10 is a good start for me. Prescott & O'Carroll as the next pair. Feka needs to work a little bit harder IMO.'"
Their stats are very comparable tbf;
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009
There is a 13 yards diff between Coley and Fielden in Fielden’s favour. Coley played one less game but made one more drive than Fielden.
The argument I’m making however is that Coley is bang on his game and is easily fulfilling the role he was brought in to do, that of the number two prop at the club. Coley was signed to take some of the pressure off an all singing and dancing Stuart Fielden and he’s expected to turn out the kind of performances he is doing.
In simple terms Coley is doing his job.
He would be an excellent number 2 for a world class prop like Morley, Graham or Peacock |
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Quote: jjb10 "Surely Fielden was our best prop of last year, didnt he make more tackles, Metre's and tackles bust with less carries. Than Coley. I've said all along we need to complement Fielden with another decent prop not get ride of him. Coley and Fielden starting @ 8 & 10 is a good start for me. Prescott & O'Carroll as the next pair. Feka needs to work a little bit harder IMO.'"
Their stats are very comparable tbf;
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009
There is a 13 yards diff between Coley and Fielden in Fielden’s favour. Coley played one less game but made one more drive than Fielden.
The argument I’m making however is that Coley is bang on his game and is easily fulfilling the role he was brought in to do, that of the number two prop at the club. Coley was signed to take some of the pressure off an all singing and dancing Stuart Fielden and he’s expected to turn out the kind of performances he is doing.
In simple terms Coley is doing his job.
He would be an excellent number 2 for a world class prop like Morley, Graham or Peacock | |
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| Quote: thepriestman85 "Their stats are very comparable tbf;
I have said it before and will say it again those Engage stats are at best inaccurate at worst a total fabrication.
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| Quote: thepriestman85 "Quote: thepriestman85 "Surely Fielden was our best prop of last year, didnt he make more tackles, Metre's and tackles bust with less carries. Than Coley. I've said all along we need to complement Fielden with another decent prop not get ride of him. Coley and Fielden starting @ 8 & 10 is a good start for me. Prescott & O'Carroll as the next pair. Feka needs to work a little bit harder IMO.'"
Their stats are very comparable tbf;
You'd have thought one of those 3 clubs would have made an effort to sign him while he was off contract this year wouldn't you?
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| Quote: thepriestman85 "Their stats are very comparable tbf;
Those stats are complete rubbish, Fielden was bobbins going forward all year. Though he did make lots of tackles.
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| Quote: jonh "I have said it before and will say it again those Engage stats are at best inaccurate at worst a total fabrication.'"
I think that they are as well.
Coley imo was hands down the better prop than Fielden last season and i know a lot of people had Coley in their top three for a good few weeks of the season. But yet if you look at the stats Fielden could be seen as having the better season.
Maybe it's because i had very little expectations when it came to him but he really impressed last season imo. |
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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf]
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| Quote: thepriestman85 "Their stats are very comparable tbf;
Those stats are complete rubbish, Fielden was bobbins going forward all year. Though he did make lots of tackles.
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| Quote: Woody_woody "You'd have thought one of those 3 clubs would have made an effort to sign him while he was off contract this year wouldn't you?'"
There was defiantly talk of Saints looking at him as well as Wire.
Looking at the fact that Saints signed Fozzard who had a poor season last year it's not that of a stretch of the imagination to think they looked at him.
I honestly can’t see what peoples problems with the guy are?
Simple yes or no answer on last seasons performances would you take Coley over Leuleui? I would…. |
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| Quote: thepriestman85 "There was defiantly talk of Saints looking at him as well as Wire.
Looking at the fact that Saints signed Fozzard who had a poor season last year it's not that of a stretch of the imagination to think they looked at him.
I honestly can’t see what peoples problems with the guy are?
Simple yes or no answer on last seasons performances would you take Coley over Leuleui? I would….'"
I haven't really seen enough of Leuleui to comment. From what I have seen I would say he too is average. I'm not saying Coley is a bad player just that he's average as is Fielden and Prescott. |
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Coley would walk a game at Leeds as would Fielden and a fitter Paleaaesina.
All are better then Kylie Leuluai and Ryan Bailey.
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| Quote: Woody_woody "I haven't really seen enough of Leuleui to comment. From what I have seen I would say he too is average. I'm not saying Coley is a bad player just that he's average as is Fielden and Prescott.'"
It's interesting to know what people define as average. None of them are performing at the level of Peacock, Graham and Morley, but as a unit if you cut the stupid brain farts out a little bit they compare very favourably with the 'best' packs albeit a little on the light side (excluding feka  ). Hopefully this season will see less brain farts and more size/power (or less size in the case of feka  ) coupled with a bit more fire and a few technique improvements, then I wouldn't swap them (as a unit) for anybody else's in the League tbh. |
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| Quote: Steve Ella's Beard "It's interesting to know what people define as average. None of them are performing at the level of Peacock, Graham and Morley, but as a unit if you cut the stupid brain farts out a little bit they compare very favourably with the 'best' packs albeit a little on the light side (excluding feka ![]()
thank god we have people like you who post on here, the amount of crap that gets posted on here is laughable!
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Another point for this season, will be a fit again O'Carroll and an emerging Ben Davies putting pressure on last season's starting 4 props.
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| Quote: jjb10 "Another point for this season, will be a fit again O'Carroll and an emerging Ben Davies putting pressure on last season's starting 4 props.'"
Personally i think Mossop will push past both Prescott and O'Carroll this year to make a place in the 4 his own. |
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I doubt Mossop getting past Prescott tbh as a prop.
I'm not saying he's not got the potential to do that but i just feel theres enough room in that backrow for Mossop to make a place his own. It doesn't look like Bailey will be playing in any of the pre season games so i'd expect Mossop to be getting his opportunities in the backrow initially and he's got the talent to nail down one of the 3 spots available(2 starting second rowers and a bench second rower).
He does look a good bet to be a prop in the long term though.
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