What about Bridge we are in trouble in the backs, big time.

Tomkins, Eastmond and Myler must all be given a chance just for our future chances and I don't think they can do any worse than the others.

that's why I said "arguably"

slightly OT, looking to book some tickets for the England game a your place, how many rows are are there in the north/south stands? booking them online and its giving us row Y.

TIA

Row Y would be about half way up. They go through the alphabet and then again ie AA, BB etc

To be honest any seat at our place is a good view but its doesn't take a genuis to know that it's far back. It starts with row B though I think so it's row 25,26 or 27 not sure how it works but it is pretty high but good seats.

Ones in bold are simply not international standard IMO and this just highlights why we will always struggle. That said at least smith has got something right dropping wasters like pryce, wellens, etc....and its looking like myler/eastmond and tomkins will get a run, though smith will no doubt pick his favourates and go for myler at half.

Have to say though I do worry somewhat....as good as myler/ tomkins/ easmond and shenton are i can see them smashed by the aussies as im not quite sure their up to that standard yet....although at least most of the liabilities have gone.

Starting 17 for me would be

Briscoe
Fox
Ellis
Smith
Hall
McGuire
Tomkins
Peacock
Roby
Graham
Wilkin
O'Loughlin
Burgess
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Carvell
Moz
Sinfield
Crabtree

Ellis is a must in the backs for me or we'll get minced and beefs us up in the backs where we're weak

Ryan Hall is the best winger we have and he is not played enough to judge if he is international standard.

Wilkin is not international standard, Gilmour should of been in for him, he has always performed at international level.

We should start with Burgess and Morley at SR IMO.

I agree with you about Ellis but will he have enough pace against Hodges and Inglis?

Haven't seen much of Bradford this year. Has Burgess been playing loose? I only ask as quite a few have him down for that position in their starting 13's.

Would it be better to have a 4 prop rotation of Morley, Peacock, Burgess and Graham or seeing all these are probably capable of long stints, using one of Morley or Peacock in the second row and having a 3 prop rotation system? Just a thought.

He has played 13 but he is not as good with ball in hand as lockers.

I would play Burgess full game pretty much at SR with Morley and Ellis rotating maybe. Keep Peacock and Graham at prop with Carvell and Morley and Crabtree doing stints at prop but keep Peacock and Graham on as much as possible.

Not a big fan of Crabtree. I'd be tempted to go with:

Peacock
Roby/Moore
Graham
Ellis
Lockers
Sinfield (for his kicking game - likelihood is we'll be in our half quite a bit so need a long kicking game)

Morley
Burgess
Carvell/Wilkin (if using Morley/Burgess as back row cover go with Carvell, Wilkin if not - I'd sway to an awesome foursome Bradfut oldskool)
Roby/Moore

I'm not sure to be honest. I've just always noticed Sinfield's long kicking game especially in the last three GF's. Plus he's a good goalkicker which is a bonus.

I like McGuire's short kicking game and he would start at stand off for me partnering Tomkins or Myler.

Good point, Sinfield is actually going to play he is the only kicker

Him and Bridge.