For me what represents an improvement is progression up the league table not how far we go in the playoffs, we should in theory make it easier for our selves in the play-off's by finishing higher in the table possibly giving us home tie's and perhaps a week off.

If we can improve on are league position next year while essentially sticking with the same squad while others around us improve there's then I'll be chuffed to bits.

No it doesn't.

All finishing in the top 4 does in the current play-off system does is force you to play one of the top 2 earlier, and probably get beaten and even if you do win, you'll probably have to play them again a couple of weeks later. 3rd and 4th is nothing special these days. 1st and 2nd obviously is but I don't think we'll be challenging for those places again next season.

I do.

I wish I had your optimism.

All we fans can do is hope. And all the club can do is try to find someone who'll improve things.

A lot depends on tomorrow's conference.

But I wouldn't get too hung up on the current play-off system. It seems to change fairly regularly to me.

And sorry, but wanting to win more matches is always the way to go. Saying that finishing 4th or 3rd is as irrelevant as finishing 5th or 6th is part of the negative mindset that I feel we have to change.

So would you rather finish top and lose both playoff games than finish 6th and win all 4??????

Just being mischievous, Melbourne won the GF from 4th Maybe if it's MMag we might be in with a shout of doing the same

The answer to that question is obvious, though in reality it's never going to be a choice of one or the other.

Finishing top would give you a much better chance of reaching the GF than finishing 6th.

Why no reply to myself or Steinlager on the previous page?
Or will you now agree that Noble has had a really positive influence on Wigan as a "club".

Attention seeker.

What has that got to do with the claims made about Noble and Orrell?

Whelan turned the facility over to Wigan RL in 2004 before Noble arrived. Someone said he was the one who pushed for a training facility for Wigan away from the JJB. We already had it before he got here.



I just find it coincidental that we rarely heard of anything negative about the junior set up when Dean Bell was here but when its been clear Noble was not succeeding with the first team it was apparently a wreck and Noble was the messiah.

Dave

Did you go to Orrell pre or post Noble?

Cant read 10 pages, so anyone know what time is the press conference tomorrow ?

Who had managed to knock out 1st, 2nd, and 3rd I think. Never mind i was only bloody playing anyway

I'll get my coat

NotDave