I think we will be in a Grand Final.

Will you get off your Anti-Nobby hobby horse if we are?

No it's not. The worse you do in the weekly rounds the harder it is to win the thing. No one has ever won the comp from outside of third and it's no coincidence.

I want to see the team play well week in week out and then go to the playoffs in a good position to win the thing. This hasn’t happened in three years with Noble at the helm please tell me why this year is going to be any different? It’s no coincidence the teams that have played well all season go on to contest the GF.

IMO it’s about potentialy sacking Noble the coach who hasn't taken us forward after he saved us from relegation, the coach who hasn't put together a win streak or consistency, the coach who picks the wrong team or the coach who plays a style of rugby that meant we had more points scored against us that we scored ourselves last season.

We have a good squad and Noble isn’t getting the best out of it. I can’t see how anyone can say he is.

I really can’t see what Noble has going for him in his time at Wigan apart from saving us from relegation. The two semi final appearances seem to have made some fans think we had a good season. Do you not remember the Hudds game, Hull KR away, Saints at MM, the capitulation at Wakey in previous seasons or our inability to win at Warrington all regular times when we just didn’t have a clue? Sadly it looks like more of the same from where I’m sitting this season also and I’m absolutely fed up with it.

I think you will find that the team who comes 4th plays the team that comes 1st in the initial Qualifier.

That's 1st v 4th not 1st v 2nd as in 2008.


The winner STILL has to play in the elimination SF.

I say again, this year the regular rounds are much less important than they have been in the past.

That may well be true and that’s the comp we are in but I’m sorry;

It’s not an excuse for performances like we've been having under him,
It’s not an excuse for a negative point’s diff,
It’s not an excuse for not putting together a winning streak together
It’s not an excuse for not playing a style of rugby that’s half entertaining
It’s not an excuse for players not developing under him

Say all you want like Noble does about the comp being won in October I want to see good rugby week in week out, I want to see marked improvements week in week out, I want to feel we have a chance at beating Saints in the weekly. I want be top of the league during the regular season.

I would just like to be able to leave after a game with pride win,lose or draw instead of not knowing how long i can put up with this gloom .

Thats whats ridiculous about the playoffs IMO....taking last years scenario, we could have gone to saints as 4th place, lost, played a mediocre team at home (or widnes ), lets for arguments sake say hull kr win through in week one, play them and your back to in what essence is a final eliminator against leeds or saints (which if 'picked' by saints, you actually have an added advantage in that you've already got a tactical insight into them from playing two weeks earlier and can right the wrongs which ment you lost the previous game)?!?!

So all you have to do to get to a final eliminator is beat one mid table side at home!! and in the process of the play offs you can actually afford the luxury of LOSING your first game even coming 4th!!! Ludicrous IMO but typically RL!!...compare to last year or the year before when you had to beat 2 top sides one home one away just to make an eliminator, and you can see that under the new system there is little benefit in coming 1st or 2nd....its all about top 4 now with each team roughly having the same chance of winning (which could actually work in our favour, but still RIDICULOUS!)

As annoying as nobbys comments are he does have a point...our pathetic new play off system means that much of the season is in real terms cast meaningless, but an excersise to warm up for the playoffs.

While I think it is always hard to justify anything other than a first past the post system anyway, at least the old top 5 could be argued with some effectiveness, in that you could counter any arguements against the P/O by arguing that every team had to beat every team above them at the very least to become champions. to win from 5th you would have to beat 4th, 3rd/2nd, 2nd/1st away...followed by 1st/2nd at Old trafford!! I hope the Play offs reduce the RFL to a laughing stock this season and the top 5 is brought back in...only playoff system that ever made sence IMO

Its only 3 games lost,why all the panic its a good job Noby dunt panic like you lot, get off his back your team will come good.

What, against London, Bradford and Leeds in the next 3?

Last year we beat all 3.

Last year we were better than this year (Barrett at 6, Prescott was on fire before he got injured - game 4/5 IIRC).

Love your optimism lad, but Jesus Henry Christ....!!!!!

Theres no talking to them. No one will answer my question why do proven coaches keep failing at Wigan. Some will say Noble isnt proven as he had the Bradford team made for him by Elliot-Bulls**t! He had to deal with losing nearly all that team whilst he was there and rebuilt it and left them as SL champions and World Club Champions. Then you have Millward,another proven coach who failed at Wigan. Suddenly he was clueless when he came here yet had won loads with Saints and seemed to get the very best out of all his players. Before that Raper suffered similar alleged player revolts towards then end as did Endacott.

People say Noble coaches boring rugby but the same was said about Millward when he was at Wigan, We couldnt score trys yet Millward was one of the most attack orientated coaches around yet our attack under him was terrible.

You have to ask yourself if Noble is sacked are we going to be wanting the next man sacked in a year or two when he fails to win anything and we hit a run of losses. The people who are calling for Noble sacked are the ones that blasted Lindsay and Whelan for sacking coaches. Two faced as hell!