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| Neither side won anything tonight.
I wanted to see how we handled a few things tonight and we handled them pretty well. Still a few things to look at, but still pretty confident of doing the double.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Was that the one where Simm lied down praying the Video Ref would take pity on him?
Only way the players will learn is by them being told to get up and get on with it. I was so pleased a penalty wasn’t given.'"
Yeah them limped and then went on the wing for a minute to try and make it look real.
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| Quote: jonh "Harsh in my opinion. Smith dropped off a few tonight. Cust did too however because Smith has improved improved in defence that should not be reflected on Cust.
Cust came up with a few big plays in defence tonight.'"
I don’t think it’s harsh at all. He falls off too many tackles and has work to do. I simply put Smiths improvements in that area down because it shows what can be done. Smith I thought nailed the vast majority of his tackles and when he didn’t make them first time, he’d be there to make a second attempt. Cust gets bumped off and left behind too often and is taken on his outside and beaten or very nearly beaten too often also IMO. I think his elbow might be hindering him a little but it’s been an issue from the first night at HKR. I like him and I’m really happy with how he’s gone this season in the main but it’s an area that needs work going forward.
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| Quote: Stu M "Grace has ruptured his Achilles and I very much doubt we will see Percival either.'"
I forgot about him mate.
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| Quote: hesslefan "Best team on the night won. Terrific goal line defence by Wigan and some poor defence from Saints.
It looked like Saints were trying to get all the errors out of their system in one go. Wigan are unlikely to get as much free ball again.
Smithies is a nasty piece of work. Gamesmanship from him going to ground while playing the ball without a hand on him to win the penalty. (Actually it didn’t think it was all that bad but worth making the point after all the silly comments about Myler earlier in the week.)
Cust was lucky to stay on the pitch. He clearly put his hand between Simm’s legs and lifted. Be interesting to see if the Disciplinary Panel show an interest.'"
Get a grip, it’s a man’s game you pussy.
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| Interesting that Peet says the following in his post match:
Saints were clearly the team that won the arm wrestle but there’s more to a game than that.”
Speaking on the intensity of the game, he said: “I think it prepares you for the kind of games that are coming, the intensity and the 80-minute nature of it. We probably got a lot of our goal-line defence practice in tonight.
“Any team that plays St Helens has to come through that, they put you in difficult positions, they build pressure well and you’ve got to be comfortable in those positions. You’re not going to have a game where you dominate field position but it doesn’t mean that you can’t post points.”
When I said similar a few weeks ago I was apparently wrong.
Over to you Stu
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| Quote: thesaint62 "Only plus point for Saints that though i've been impressed with K P P when i've seen him'"
KPP should have lined up against Hurrell.
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| Quote: jonh "I thought Marshall came up with a few dumb plays that put us under pressure at times hence not mentioning him.
His effort is outstanding but I sometimes question his thought process.
Can’t deny though he came up with some key plays at significant times during the game.'"
I agree.
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| Quote: apollosghost "Harry Smith's defensive effort absolutely outstanding with the Saints pack targeting him all night, add on 5/5, 3 from the touchline and he's becoming essential, no way does Tommy replace him at 7 when he's back'"
Tommy replaces Cust for me and Havard in for Mago.
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| Quote: moto748 "Which is why I don't think Cust is a natural 9 as some have suggested. He's a half, and doesn't really have good enough defence to be a dummy-half. Plus, to be fair, like Lomax, he doesn't seem to be fully fit. Anyway, a fantastic match, and French's try on the final whistle just put the icing on the cake. Great try from Marshy, and for all people talk about defence, defence, defence, it's often being able to take those chances in attack when you do get the opportunity that wins matches. And with a back three like ours... Saints were poor in attack tonight. And I don't think Lussick's try would have been scored if Powell was playing.'"
Put Lomax in our team and we win in a canter. We need to find a way of closing him down as everything revolves around him.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "I don’t think it’s harsh at all. He falls off too many tackles and has work to do. I simply put Smiths improvements in that area down because it shows what can be done. Smith I thought nailed the vast majority of his tackles and when he didn’t make them first time, he’d be there to make a second attempt. Cust gets bumped off and left behind too often and is taken on his outside and beaten or very nearly beaten too often also IMO. I think his elbow might be hindering him a little but it’s been an issue from the first night at HKR. I like him and I’m really happy with how he’s gone this season in the main but it’s an area that needs work going forward.'"
I’m with you Nicky, I thought Cust was poor tonight. He doesn’t have the skills or pace to play stand off for me. If it is a choice between him and Tommy it is Tommy every time as his defence is far better.
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| Special mention for Liam Byrne. He’s a real handful now and doesn’t half put a shift in. Other than Harry Smith, probably our most improved player over the last 18 months or so.
Great atmosphere last night, nice to see a healthy crowd on, and also experience a bustling Fan Village with coffers going into our pot instead of that of the football club.
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| Roby showed his age in that game. Was hanging off tackles and left on the floor most of the time. Hung on a bit to long and tried to prevent the play the ball at one point. Great news he’s signed 1 more year
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| Congrats Wigan.
Some tremendous defence and took your chances well when they arrived.
We played with our usual effort, I was actually pretty proud of how we kept plugging away, but we simply didn’t have the bite to break you down. Wigan could focus on targeting Lomax and Welsby in the knowledge that nobody else was likely to do anything. And Wigan did that very well indeed.
Fair play to Peet again. Until next time!
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| Quote: Zig "I’m with you Nicky, I thought Cust was poor tonight. He doesn’t have the skills or pace to play stand off for me. If it is a choice between him and Tommy it is Tommy every time as his defence is far better.'"
On the ball I’m happy enough with him and I think he’s had a good first season but defensively he has work to do. I would go with Tommy and Smith in the halves though and play Cust from the bench if all 3 are available against Catalans and moving forward.
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