Please tell me you're joking? I refuse to believe this isn't a wind-up?

mate the only wind up must be the way some people go on about Hock...how can a player with SO many failings posibly be world class or anywhere near as some would have you believe!!!

Spot on, if anything he is underrated.

Very rarely does he get applauded for having a good game and most of the time his work goes unnoticed, which is why some people maybe believe he is clueless in attack.

Ideally I would only be happy if we finished in the top 4 and maybe made it to the CC final and winning it.

However judging on our opening few games, I feel 4th to 8th is more realistic. If it means finishing in this position but having Tomkins and Ainscough being played regularly then I'll be content, as we will be building for the future whilst still finishing in a respectable position.

With the youngsters we have, I'm willing to be patient if it means we will be back at the top winning things in 3 to 5 years, but some fans want instant success and that wont be happening overnight.

Can't argue with that, If I was going to write a thread complaining about any of our players, Hansen would be somewhere near the bottom of my list... totally under-rated solid player.

Hansen is an average SL player. By rating him anything more is overrating him.

Yes he's a great tackler, so are many of the forwards in SL. Think of it from this angle, having Hansen in the 17 results in another player missing out in the 17, namely one of the other young backrowers- Flanny Mossop or Farrell for example.

If one of these 3 could tackle up and offer some ideas in attack, surely we'd sooner see them in the 17? Basically if they're a better player they should be in.

Team I posted

-----------------Richards-------------------
---Roberts Bailey Carmont Ainscough---
-----------Tomkins Tommy---------------
-------Fielden Riddell O Carroll-----------
--------------Hock Lockers----------------
----------------Tomkins--------------------
Feka McClorum Prescott (Mossop/Farrell/Flanny)

If they are better than Hansen, they should play.

I'm sorry but again you’re posting your opinions as FACTS. They are not facts they are your opinions.

You think Hansen is average and overrated i think he's underrated. You think he's clueless in attack i think he runs the best lines at the club, makes modest yards and never gets dominated in the tackle.

Hansen would get in the starting 17 of every SL squad and would be my first 2nd rower down to start every week.

Agreed. It is opinion.

Like 98% of comments posted on a message board.

Now that's a FACT!

If ifs and ands.....

Hansen has a consistently high work rate, doesn't make unforced errors, doesn't give away penalties and as has been stated runs some great lines.

He improved in the majority of areas between 2007 and 2008 which can't be said for most of our players. Last season he was top in tackles with 825 with Sinfield second with 777. He was also top on marker tackles with 106, 16 more than Simon Finnegan at number 2.

You are entitled to your opinion but at least back it up with some evidence.

Errors, penalties, attitude and inconsistency cost us dearly last season so I just don't understand why anyone would highlight a player who has no apparent problems in any of those areas.

Because on the field away from tackling up he offers very little.

Is this your opinion or a fact?



IMO it's probably incorrect.