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| You can’t really defend him in this case.
Hopefully just a relapse in attitude after what had been a challenging time for everyone.
As others have mentioned hopefully the return to action and more importantly the birth of his child will give him that routine and stability he clearly needs.
The devil makes work for idle hands.
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| Quote nottinghamtiger="nottinghamtiger"It was pretty unprovoked from Zak though. Foster was simply praising an ex-team-mate and was met with Zak ripping into him for being a hair-dresser. I think he had every right to get a bit shirty.
Of course, Zak is also still a current SL player and therefore has an obligation to Wigan (who gave him an opportunity to return to the game) not to bring the club into disrepute with abusive and expletive-ridden posts on social media. Foster has no obligation to anyone and can say as he pleases in whatever way he wants.
Zak is currently busy deleting his Tweets, but it’s probably too late. And whilst he’s deleting some, he is continuing to reply to Foster’s tweets this morning trying to make everything look like friendly banter..'"
I think this says a lot more about your prejudices than Hardaker's regarding hairdressers and their perceived (by you) sexualities
You're obviously still very bitter about how Hardaker treated your club, to the point where you're implying he's homophobically abusing a barber and that he's an alcoholic. Unreal. Go and evict the tenant that's living rent free in your head, it'll do you and us a big favour.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"You can’t really defend him in this case.
Hopefully just a relapse in attitude after what had been a challenging time for everyone.
As others have mentioned hopefully the return to action and more importantly the birth of his child will give him that routine and stability he clearly needs.
The devil makes work for idle hands.'"
The birth of a child is often a very difficult time for people with addictions and mental health difficulties. Looking after a newborn baby is stressful, tiring and can leave many people feeling anxious. Often, it can be a catalyst for further difficulties.
I hope that’s not the case, but we should not assume that a child will automatically help Zak to overcome his difficulties, because that probably won’t happen.
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| Quote nottinghamtiger="nottinghamtiger"The birth of a child is often a very difficult time for people with addictions and mental health difficulties. Looking after a newborn baby is stressful, tiring and can leave many people feeling anxious. Often, it can be a catalyst for further difficulties.
I hope that’s not the case, but we should not assume that a child will automatically help Zak to overcome his difficulties, because that probably won’t happen.'"
I said hopefully.
I’m slightly concerned by your borderline obsession with him.
I’m not going to lie I’m not his biggest fan and I didn’t want him at the club, still don’t really but he is here and doing a job for us.
I find it odd that you jump on every post with what seems to me to be very insincere posts, making out you have empathy towards him which are however littered with negativity and backhanded comments.
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| Quote nottinghamtiger="nottinghamtiger"It was pretty unprovoked from Zak though. Foster was simply praising an ex-team-mate and was met with Zak ripping into him for being a hair-dresser. I think he had every right to get a bit shirty.
Of course, Zak is also still a current SL player and therefore has an obligation to Wigan (who gave him an opportunity to return to the game) not to bring the club into disrepute with abusive and expletive-ridden posts on social media. Foster has no obligation to anyone and can say as he pleases in whatever way he wants.
Zak is currently busy deleting his Tweets, but it’s probably too late. And whilst he’s deleting some, he is continuing to reply to Foster’s tweets this morning trying to make everything look like friendly banter.'"
The second paragraph says more about Foster than hardaker. Whether hes had a word in his ear or just woke up, at least he is trying a bit of damage control. And if you're going to complain it was unprovoked by Zak last night then it was unprovoked by Foster this morning to carry it on
Also, Zak didn't rip in to him for being a hairdresser, his first comment was "stick to cutting hair". More of a "stick to what your doing" than a "hah your gay for being a hairdresser". Bit reaching there mate. then foster brought up drugs. Both as bad as each other
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| Quote Suzy Banyon="Suzy Banyon"I think this says a lot more about your prejudices than Hardaker's regarding hairdressers and their perceived (by you) sexualities
You're obviously still very bitter about how Hardaker treated your club, to the point where you're implying he's homophobically abusing a barber and that he's an alcoholic. Unreal. Go and evict the tenant that's living rent free in your head, it'll do you and us a big favour.'"
I don’t think so. Many occupations have a stereotypical link.
I’m not implying he’s an alcoholic - Hardaker has said that himself.
I also not implying he abused Jamie Foster based on his occupation. That’s just what happened. What I am implying is that, given Hardaker’s precious homophobic behaviour, it’s possible that this was his motivation. After all, you don’t see him abusing other ex-players on the basis of their career, do you?
You’re also wrong on the bitterness front. If I was bitter, I’d be calling for him to be sacked, not helped. When Zak was banned, he was suffering from significant mental health issues and also dealing with an extremely difficult personal problem that it isn’t fair to discuss on here.
Am I glad he isn’t at Cas anymore? Yes, because (as shown) he is always one day away from another screw up. Do I want him to fail and end up in the gutter? Absolutely not.
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| Quote Angelus="Angelus"The second paragraph says more about Foster than hardaker. Whether hes had a word in his ear or just woke up, at least he is trying a bit of damage control. And if you're going to complain it was unprovoked by Zak last night then it was unprovoked by Foster this morning to carry it on
Also, Zak didn't rip in to him for being a hairdresser, his first comment was "stick to cutting hair". More of a "stick to what your doing" than a "hah your gay for being a hairdresser". Bit reaching there mate. then foster brought up drugs. Both as bad as each other'"
Yes, but Foster can say what he wants, when he wants and how he wants. He’s accountable to nobody. Hardaker, on the other hand, is a representative of Wigan Warriors and will be contracted not to bring the club into disrepute through his behaviour, including on social media. His expletive-ridden and abusive comments towards an ex-player (or anyone for that matter) most certainly do bring the club into disrepute.
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| Quote nottinghamtiger="nottinghamtiger"He is happy to put photos of what he is drinking in social media (last night it was pints of Peroni followed by bottles of red wine).'"
What on earth?! That is ridiculous a week out from resuming the season.
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| Quote nottinghamtiger="nottinghamtiger"He is happy to put photos of what he is drinking in social media (last night it was pints of Peroni followed by bottles of red wine).'"
From what I saw on instagram, there was a glass of red wine next to his sunday roast, a pint of peronni on a table during the rugby, and then a glass next to a bottle later on. Who's to say the bottle wasn't being scared with someone? Hardly Sue Ellen Ewing is he?
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| Quote jonh="jonh"I’m slightly concerned by your borderline obsession with him.'"
Reckon he sits at home refreshing Zaks social media waiting for something to jump on.
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| Quote Egg Chasing="Egg Chasing"Reckon he sits at home refreshing Zaks social media waiting for something to jump on.'"
I follow most things RL on social media.
Not my fault Hardaker is the one who draws attention to himself.
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| Quote nottinghamtiger="nottinghamtiger"Yes, but Foster can say what he wants, when he wants and how he wants. He’s accountable to nobody. Hardaker, on the other hand, is a representative of Wigan Warriors and will be contracted not to bring the club into disrepute through his behaviour, including on social media. His expletive-ridden and abusive comments towards an ex-player (or anyone for that matter) most certainly do bring the club into disrepute.'"
He was banned for one homophobic comment, and before and after that has done more for teh LGBT community that most, if thats what you mean for previous homophobic comments. You're trying very hard to make it something it isnt.
And yes, his comments may well bring the club into disrepute, which is why hes removing them and trying to play it down.
Also, Foster can't say what he wants, when he wants, how he wants, because its against the rules of the platform hes using. Dont know why your trying so hard to give him a free pass. Two to tango and all that.
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