What would it achieve if Lam was sent home tomorrow? We’d have no head coach, we’d have no chance of getting one in if any sort of quality therefore Winder would be appointed until the end of the season leaving us without an assistant.

Look at Leeds, how have they benefited from sacking Furner?

Whether Lam is the right choice for next season and beyond is a matter for debate, I’m still open minded, I wouldn’t object but it depends on who else is available and interested in the job.

For this season sacking him now in my opinion will only make the situation worse.

I partly agree. For me, Lam is completely the wrong fit for this Wigan team. Whatever's happened since he arrived, we are simply the pits. I'm so weary of this worst-ever-form that I can't even be bothered going through all the things wrong with us, because they are legion. But I do agree that releasing him now would be self-defeating. At least as long as he's here, believing he has a chance of getting the job full-time, he has a motivation to try to create a winning format. If he was relased or was told that he was being released in the autumn, the opposite would be true.

Hopefully though, the chairman is already looking elsewhere for next season, for players as well as a coach - because Lam should only leave this club as part of a massive overhaul.

We genuinely need to rebuild from the bottom up.

We may benefit from starting to play like a team that knows what they’re doing which in turn may get bums back on seats and at least give the fans something to cheer for the rest of the season. 2006 is the lowest point in modern times but at least that season was saved by sacking Millward and signing Dobson, Fielden and co, at least we give it a go. What we are doing now is saying we aren’t abysmal but we will keep on going down that route.

Half a story. 2006 was saved by sacking Millward after finding the coach who would replace him then signing Dobson and Fielden by re-negotiating existing contracts to create space in the cap, a practice which is now not allowed and one we got penalised for even though it wasn’t against the rules at the time.

Where is the next coach going to come from? Where are the players and cap space going to come from?

I totally understand people’s reservations about Lam. We haven’t exactly set the world on fire this season at all. But let’s not pretend we did so under the entire Shaun Wane tenure either. We won when we had to most of the time and we rarely blew teams away with scintillating rugby. I reckon Waney saw this season coming and decided to get out before it did. Apart from the super 8SP and play offs, last season also saw us play some awful rugby. Who can forget Hull KR away or Warrington in the Cup? Not be but I really wish I could!
Lam came in to steer the ship for one season before handing over the reins. He’s had rotten luck and tried to implement new structures in a side with literally no consistency. I’ve maintained throughout that we’ve seen glimpses of what he’s tried to change in attack and when we get it right, it’s electric! We just haven’t got it right consistently enough but I maintain that whilst it’s no excuse, the lack of consistency in the squad is some mitigation.
We’re talking about Adrian Lam. A man with a 15 year coaching apprenticeship under his belt. Coach of junior sides, PNG head coach, assistant coach at the reigning NRL & world champions and assistant coach of the Australia national side. That doesn’t happen if you’re no good.
Lam needs to bring in people he trusts to play in his structure. He needs to be given the resources to significantly upgrade the squad. We know that most of this squad had a phenomenal run in the play offs and GF last year but arguably the 2 best players in that squad have gone and the others have aged. The simple truth is, some (quite a few) of our 1st 17 are just not good enough and I honestly believe it wouldn’t matter who was coaching them, they’d struggle. The teams around us have significantly strengthened, Saints & Warrington especially but not exclusively.
I genuinely, hand on heart believe that resources is a bigger issue than Lam’s coaching.

The title of this thread "Deluded Lenagan" must be the daftest ever on this board.
He's owned the club 12 years from 2008 and appointed his first coach, McGuire, in 2010. Since then with McGuire and Wane as head coaches we've been in countless finals winning most of them.
He's transformed the club's finances from being a financial car crash in DW's ownership to being manageable. He has put in £ms of his own money in recent years and has/is now wisely limiting spending.
When comparing the 12 years of IL's ownership from DW's there's no comparison. We are massively better off now with IL running the place.
As for him saying Lam is favourite it's hardly surprising. He can hardly say anything else. He said it prior to the Catalan game so he may be reconsidering it.
Lam will be judged on results and performances. After the Wire Cup loss most of us felt it was a good team performance and with a different VR decision we would have won the game. The Barcelona shambles left us all disappointed. I'm sure none more so than all at the club.
We now have four away games where Lam will be judged very critically I'd imagine.
After all, IL said Lam was favourite. That is a very long way from saying he's got the job.
As for IL being "deluded", how daft can it get?

You are Ian Lenagan and I claim my five pounds.

British/Superleague- Chris Chester, Daryl Powell, Brian McDermott.

Overseas untested - Jason Demetriou

Overseas Experienced - Justin Morgan, Shane Flanagan.

Take your pick from the coaches, they’re just off the top of my head and regards salary cap we have Hamlins and Gansons wage to go at not to mention a marquee spot.

The Lam audition certainly isn’t going great but I’m in the camp that says without proper investment it will not matter who coaches us. I’ve said get Wane back but with this group of players (and minus at least Williams) he would still only squeeze a few extra wins out of us and maybe scrape top five.

No proper investment and we’re going nowhere other then sitting somewhere between 5th at best and down near the bottom at worst.

What do you mean, 'only'? That would be fantastic!

Sorry "Post" I'm not IL and you've lost your five pounds.

As for coaches, Wigan wouldn't be short of applicants if a vacancy occurred.
As for cap space. As has been said, Hamlin and Ganson have gone so their salaries are available.
As for cap space for 2020, Williams going won't give much cap space but will create space on the accounts. There will be departures, the names are not known to us but the club know and can budget accordingly.
We could have a long wait for announcements as some players don't want their leaving made known until after the end of the season. Some clubs don't want fans to know which of their players are leaving too.

And out of that lot the only one that could/would come in mid season is Flanagan. Marquee spot is irrelevant unless we have the £150k cap space to spend in the first place. I’m only guessing but Hamlin & Ganson would give us 40 - 50k at best when you take into account what they have already been paid this season.