Are u saying you can't see any value in keeping the current club and England captain? He's head and shoulders the best all round rugby player in the league.

Maybe I've misunderstood you, but are you arguing that Wigan need to get rid of SOL?

Would you like to explain why you think we should get rid of our best player.

Quote Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy="Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy"Who knows - this is the only thing that is now finally on the club website. Even then the fact he's signed is buried in the story about the awards dinner, very strange??????? "[iPresenting the Chairman’s Award, Ian Lenagan announced that O’Loughlin had signed a new contract with the Warriors.[/i" Read more at www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2017- ... SjyRqVW.99'" [urlhttp://www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2017-10-02-sean-oloughlin-signs-new-contract[/url At 1.03pm they finally realised it might be worth giving this a bit more publicity. It's for next season with another year option (doesn't state in player or club's favour).

Quote Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy="Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy"Who knows - this is the only thing that is now finally on the club website. Even then the fact he's signed is buried in the story about the awards dinner, very strange??????? "[iPresenting the Chairman’s Award, Ian Lenagan announced that O’Loughlin had signed a new contract with the Warriors.[/i" Read more at www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2017- ... SjyRqVW.99'" [urlhttp://www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2017-10-02-sean-oloughlin-signs-new-contract[/url At 1.03pm they finally realised it might be worth giving this a bit more publicity. It's for next season with another year option (doesn't state in player or club's favour).

Good. Now onto the new signings, Mr Lenagan.

Sculthorpe rapidly declined, Lockers is still playing brilliantly. Totally divorced from reality as usual.

Another moronic post

Lockers is the last layer the club needs to be ruthless with. I get the concern we are over reliant on him but the fact remains we are far better when he plays. Plenty of other dead wood to cull before Lockers that I suspect are retained more because they are Wane's mates than due to what they offer as players.

It's the over reliance that means we can't lose him yet! Next season (possibly the season after depending on his fitness) needs to be a transition year in which we learn to live without him on the field. Its time for somebody (I'd say Bateman) to really step up.

How on earth does Paul Sculthorpe spring to mind? He played about 20 games in his final 2 years at Saints before retiring at the age of 30. O'Loughlin turns 35 next month and is still our most influential player and the captain of England.

It ain't your kipper that's whiffy pal it's your ars3 from all the sh*t you chat out of it.

hahahahaha clueless

When you get a coach who has been at the club a long time and served various roles he is bound to become close to the players. The upside is performances like the Grand Final last year, which I doubt any other coach could have pulled off. Loyalty can be a powerful persuader. The downside is that he is too close to some players and finds it hard to drop them.

I have argued, like yourself, that many of the senior players need to be replaced. However, there is always the possibility that Wane will get the likes of McIlorum and Tomkins (x2) playing like we know they are capable of. I for one, would like to be proven wrong on this one.

I forgot you can't say anything wrong about the Sainted O'Lockers on here, his fan club doesn't like it, i half expected King Warrior to raise his head for a moment, This will be a season too far for O'Lockers worn out body mark my words