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| Quote RichieS="RichieS"I would go with dropping Gelling & Burgess...installing Davies at left centre and bringing in Manfredi on the wing...that is two solid defenders and two work-a-holics with bringing us forward. Marshall 100% needs to replace Burgess, he will blossom outside of Gildart!
Not much movement with the props, can't really drop any of them but to say Wane was a prop and prides himself on his props, last night was god awful and those stats just compound what a lack of effort there was in the pack.'"
I don't know why you would want to move Davies when he's excelling in his current position. It could be a master stroke but I think with the form he's in at the minute just leave him where he is. I wouldn't mind Manfredi taking Gelling's place though.
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| Quote PurpleCheeseWarrior="PurpleCheeseWarrior"I don't know why you would want to move Davies when he's excelling in his current position. It could be a master stroke but I think with the form he's in at the minute just leave him where he is. I wouldn't mind Manfredi taking Gelling's place though.'"
Tbh, I wasn't sure Manfredi would or could fit into centre and I was thinking longer term, Manfredi is a winger and given pre-injury form, one of the best in the league, his future lies on the left wing no where else, whereas I was thinking that a switch for Davies to left centre now would and could be a masterstroke...he could well be a Watkins type player, a combination of Manfredi & Davies at 2 & 3 could be our most effective moving forward for the next 2-3 years?
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Presuming a swift to the halves for Sam.
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| Quote Wigg'n="Wigg'n" or he'll just sod off back to the NRL.'"
I can't see that they'll be queuing up, on current form.
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| Quote RichieS="RichieS"Tbh, I wasn't sure Manfredi would or could fit into centre and I was thinking longer term, Manfredi is a winger and given pre-injury form, one of the best in the league, his future lies on the left wing no where else, whereas I was thinking that a switch for Davies to left centre now would and could be a masterstroke...he could well be a Watkins type player, a combination of Manfredi & Davies at 2 & 3 could be our most effective moving forward for the next 2-3 years?
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2. Manfredi
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5. Burgess/Marshall
Presuming a swift to the halves for Sam.'"
When you say 'left wing' and 'left centre' there, do you mean right wing and right centre? 
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| Yes, sorry... 
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| I don't get this idea why people think that wingers can just switch to centre and be good to go - centre is a specialist position (Burgess in the centre as an example - Pat Richards was tried there and failed ) as a cover maybe but as a starting idea not a chance. Far too often we have gone with the idea of playing someone who is not a specialist at centre and it does not work - look how much better Gildart plays compared the rights centres we have tried this season - and it is obvious.
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| Quote MR FRISK="MR FRISK"Could manfredi take the place of Burgess'"
Think he will this week. To be fair to burgess he played with an injection in the cc semi, and prob the same against Leeds. Why not play Marshall who knows, maybe wane didn't want to go to Leeds with both kids on the wing. The stats vs Leeds to me proves he's not fit, I know he been off his game last few weeks, but you could never fault his effort, that wasn't even there vs Leeds. Think he will take a spell on the sidelines this week for Manfredi/Marshall.
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| Burgess hasn't looked right since his injury lay off. If he's being jabbed up to play then why isn't Marshall being selected? Perhaps Waney wanted the experienced Burgess for two big games? Hudds at home and he has to give Joe a rest. Playing Manfredi left wing would put him against McGilvary who's a real handful. Davis must keep his place, Marshall to replace Burgess.
Waney needs to sort out the kicking game, or lack of, also wasting 2 interchanges with MM and Powell. One of them has to do 80 mins giving the forwards 2 more interchanges than at present.
Quite a lot to sort out really when at the business end of the season we'd expect all this to have been resolved months ago.
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| Quote exiled Warrior="exiled Warrior"I don't get this idea why people think that wingers can just switch to centre and be good to go - centre is a specialist position (Burgess in the centre as an example - Pat Richards was tried there and failed ) as a cover maybe but as a starting idea not a chance. Far too often we have gone with the idea of playing someone who is not a specialist at centre and it does not work - look how much better Gildart plays compared the rights centres we have tried this season - and it is obvious.'"
Yet the Aussies - particularly Queensland in the SOO - swap players across the back five with ease. Perhaps it's all about the quality of the individuals involved......
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| Quote Wigg'n="Wigg'n"To be fair last week he tweeted that it wasn't a good personal performance for him so he at least acknowledges he's in bad form. It needs managing carefully as dropping him could have permanent affects [uor he'll just sod off back to the NRL[/u.'"
I sometimes wonder if we buy this line too often.
No doubt it gives their agents great leverage, but if that's what Budgie's agent is still up to, maybe it's time to call his bluff.
Budgie's main asset was always his lightning speed, and if that's now gone - as seemed to be the case at Salford last week - then what overall use is he?
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| I think it's doubtful that budgie will get another crack at the NRL in my opinion who would take the chance on him,his form over there was patchy at best he simply went too early and since his return to Wigan his form,and speed has been well patchy at best.
I think he does need resting,maybe like Faz last season and his rib the lad is carrying an injury that has yet to fully reveal itself,who knows just me musing i suppose he needs a bit of handling thats for sure and keeping in the side is one way doing that but at what cost as it must be playing on his mind that he's not in any kind of form that we know he was capable of.
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| Quote jinkin jimmy="jinkin jimmy"Yet the Aussies - particularly Queensland in the SOO - swap players across the back five with ease. Perhaps it's all about the quality of the individuals involved......'"
Absolutly it is - I wouldn't be surprised if the backs there train in various positions -but and it is a huge but I cannot recall any Wigan player making a success of switching from wing to centre for a very, very long time (Dean Bell the last?). Burgess looked lost at centre when he played there recently and the suggestions of moving someone like Davies there just baffle me - especially whilst we have other options (we have centres out on loan) especially in important games.
I accept that Gelling is not playing well but moving wingers into the centre is unlikely to provide a solution.
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