if that is true, then there is no surprise to me that his head has dropped, especially when i assume all of his family is back in France.

Seems harsh,he was poor in defense that game but to deem his Wigan career over so early seems harsh. I have been critical of him this season but he is raw and with good coaching could become an asset for someone.

Navarette looked totally miffed trudging off at Leigh and I'm guessing if he was told his career at Wigan was over after that game that maybe he threw his toys out of the pram and was pinged for his attitude rather then his actual talent.

Whatever the explanation, I just hope it means we get someone good.

And by good, I mean the finished article, someone who can step straight in and do a job for us.

it's interesting that the front row is where I feel we're weakest at present. None of our current props are real game-breakers.

Couldn't agree more.
Sort out the props and kicking game then we will really would be cooking

Well, there aren't that many real game-breaking props in the game at present, and those that are are either unlikely to become available or would command a high wage. Ours are pretty good, especially when we get Flower back next season, and there are some excellent prospects coming up through the academy - not just Sutton but Field and Partington, and in a few years Kibula too.

Mickey Pea is OOC and moving back to SL. Plenty of proven experience & knows how to settle in the UK.

Could be a good option for 2 seasons or so until the above really kick on.

My feeling is that what happened tonight has happened too often this season. There is simply no go-forward in this Wigan side.

A very pedestrian Warrington team kept us in our own half for much of the game. When we had the ball, we looked weak and ineffective.

Not just the props' fault ... but Wire won the forward battle pretty decisively.

tell me know why it is worth sending players out on loan at this time of year, performances and personal ambitions or reasoning aside, after last night's game...

lewis may have been poor of late and but at least he would have tried. why has navarette been told he won't get a game when players in his position, clubb aside, don't deserve their training kit.

I said this would come back to bite us and it already has.

and I don't care how successful we have been in recent years under Wane, history is of no significance in times like this. the team is being coached to death. the team is being picked by a man who still wants to play 80s hard man rugby. it doesn't work and we've only been recently successful because the standard in general hasn't been up to scratch elsewhere.

even IF we won the CC this year as well, the year would be deemed a success but all it would do for me is mask over the larger issues and then the club would not feel changes are required. I however, feel they are. the coaching staff. the players available should be matching any team in this league week in week out. so the problem does not lie with the players in my opinion.

I hope lewis and romain laugh their way over to france and come back to haunt us - and good luck to them.

Going to be brutally honest in my opinion,and it is mine,I dont think Navarette was ever going to make it at Wigan he just wasnt good enough,no shame in it it just didnt wor out,i do wonder if he was brought over to help Escare settle that bit quicker? who knows he could have spent 10 years at Wigan and i dont think he would have made the grade.

Young Lewis he will make it elsewhere but not at Wigan,no issue with his speed but his frame doesnt help him but i think Catalan could well do him the world of good.

Rads has already covered that. The deadline for player registration for the Super 8s is coming up and we wanted to register Manfredi and Tierney deserves game time which he will get at Catalans. Who incidentally will play against teams like Featherstone and London so it's not an amazing scenario for Lewis.

apologies, I did actually know the reason for their loans, but my point is, Dom hasn't played for a year and will no way fit right back in. As for Romain; Wane doesn't like him despite not even given him enough of a chance to prove him wrong. I appreciate the players would have demanded first team action so were happy to take up the options, but I do not think these decisions will work well for us, just as they didn't last night.