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| Tomkins
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Put Lockers at prop so that we have four props.
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| Quote Bigredwarrior="Bigredwarrior"If they're deemed fit enough to play, they should play!
Tomkins
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Burgess
Williams
Leuluai
FPN
McIlorum
Sutton
Farrell
Bateman
Lockers
Tautai
Isa
Tomkins
Powell'"
I'd go with that but with Davies in for Marshall. His ability to make metres from deep is invaluable and I believe he is better under the high ball and better defender.
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"Great to see a few bodies back! I'd go:
FB 5 Joe Burgess
RW 36 Tom Davies
RC 3 Anthony Gelling
LC 4 Oliver Gildart
LW 35 Liam Marshall
SO 6 George Williams
SH 7 Thomas Leuluai
P 13 Sean O’Loughlin
H 9 Michael McIlorum
P 19 Ryan Sutton
SR 28 Jack Wells
SR 12 Liam Farrell
LF 11 Joel Tomkins
S 1 Sam Tomkins (on for McIlorum with Leuluai to hooker)
S 14 John Bateman
S 17 Taulima Tautai
S 20 Willie Isa (on at prop)
Obviously a bit leftfield. Here's my thinking:
Burgess has all the skills to do a great job at FB, it would be great to get the ball in his hands more in space. This also allows us to keep Davies and Marshall in the team, who have both been excellent.
Nu'uausala looks either ineffective or lazy to me, I can see Hill, Westwood etc really showing him up. I'd hate to have him keeping a place with Wells sat in the stands. Playing prop might work better for Lockers as well given that his game time tends to be limited and we need to improve our defence.
Keep S.Tomkins and Bateman out of those early collisions when the Wire pack is fresh. i see S.Tomkins more as a halfback now given that he will have lost pace and longer term we have Escare playing out of his skin at FB. I think people tend to forget he was brilliant in the halves when he first broke into the team. Leuluai is the best hooker at the club and not tearing up trees in the halves so works well from that perspective too.'"
Not a chance in hell. I can't believe no one has pulled you up on this. For me, Lockers becomes our fourth prop and we start Bateman from the bench but that's as far as I go. FPN stays in because it's the best option, if not ideal.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"I'd go with that but with Davies in for Marshall. His ability to make metres from deep is invaluable and I believe he is better under the high ball and better defender.'"
Couldn't agree more with you re Davies who for me has been the "find " of the season.
Personally I would Wells on the bench in place of Powell.
Just hope we can hold it together particularly those returning after a long absence.
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| Quote Itchy Arsenal="Itchy Arsenal"Quote Itchy Arsenal="Rogues Gallery"I'd go with that but with Davies in for Marshall. His ability to make metres from deep is invaluable and I believe he is better under the high ball and better defender.'"
Couldn't agree more with you re Davies who for me has been the "find " of the season.
Personally I would Wells on the bench in place of Powell.
Just hope we can hold it together particularly those returning after a long absence.'"
Completely concur - Marshall has done very well but the only reason Davies hasn't scored as many tries is because anything good that comes out of our attack happens when we go left.
Play Burgess at left wing and keep Davies on the right.
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| Quote MadDogg="MadDogg"Completely concur - Marshall has done very well but the only reason Davies hasn't scored as many tries is because anything good that comes out of our attack happens when we go left.
Play Burgess at left wing and keep Davies on the right.'"
Oh i agree over Davies but no way will Marshall be dropped,scores to many
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| Quote MadDogg="MadDogg"Completely concur - Marshall has done very well but the only reason Davies hasn't scored as many tries is because anything good that comes out of our attack happens when we go left.
Play Burgess at left wing and keep Davies on the right.'"
I disagree, lots of Marshall's tries are self made, either intercepts, long range efforts, or scoots from close. He isn't just doing walk ins from good build up play, from what I've seen so far, he is as good a finisher as anyone at the club.
Also, Davies' average gain is 8.58 metres, Marshall's average gain is 8.57 metres, so not really much of a difference at all in metres made.
As previously mentioned, I wouldn't be surprised if one of Gelling, Gildart or Burgess didn't play. Burgess looked like he struggled a little bit to me, almost like he's got a knock. He doesn't seem as fast as he was. In fact, when he made that break against Hull he looked pretty slow compared to what we usually see from him.
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| Quote jinkin jimmy="jinkin jimmy"Not a chance in hell. I can't believe no one has pulled you up on this. For me, Lockers becomes our fourth prop and we start Bateman from the bench but that's as far as I go. FPN stays in because it's the best option, if not ideal.'"
I'm not saying it will happen, but I don't like players having nailed down spots no matter how they play, and younger lads being automatically dropped even when they are playing well. It sends out the wrong message to all concerned. Davies, Marshall and Wells have all gone really well IMO and I'd like us to look at keeping them in the side whilst they are still performing. It's even more frustrating with FPN because we saw him put in some cracking games at the back end of last season, but that was 8 months ago. Hopefully on Saturday he proves me wrong and bulldozes Simms
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| Sims is a flat-track bully. If FPN can't get the better of him, well...
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| Quote JWarriors="JWarriors"I disagree, lots of Marshall's tries are self made, either intercepts, long range efforts, or scoots from close. He isn't just doing walk ins from good build up play, from what I've seen so far, he is as good a finisher as anyone at the club.
Also, Davies' average gain is 8.58 metres, Marshall's average gain is 8.57 metres, so not really much of a difference at all in metres made.
As previously mentioned, I wouldn't be surprised if one of Gelling, Gildart or Burgess didn't play. Burgess looked like he struggled a little bit to me, almost like he's got a knock. He doesn't seem as fast as he was. In fact, when he made that break against Hull he looked pretty slow compared to what we usually see from him.'"
Davies comes in and takes the pressure off his forwards and has made 30% more metres than Marshall. He also makes more tackles and misses fewer.
In truth it's not a bad problem to have, but I still worry about Marshalls defence, and the way that Wakefield winger/centre ran over him.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Davies comes in and takes the pressure off his forwards and has made 30% more metres than Marshall. He also makes more tackles and misses fewer.
In truth it's not a bad problem to have, but I still worry about Marshalls defence, and the way that Wakefield winger/centre ran over him.'"
I tend to agree, our defence is much more of a worry than our attack at present, and I do think Davies is better in that department.
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