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| Wire are clearly the team to beat.
We'll have a far better chance with a full team of doing that. Last night was always going to be about damage limitation as soon as the squads were announced.
The superleague needs games between these sides at full strength. The RFL really messed up planning that for just after Easter.
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The Internet has provided some wonderful creativity, opportunities and knowledge sharing but it has also given a worldwide forum for people you would leave a full pint behind in the pub to avoid having to listen to them.
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| Three weeks ago, Widnes were the team to beat, the vagaries of the season... Be interesting to compare attendees of the Easter period with past years. That could also be a deciding factor as well as the obvious, and more important, wear and tear on players.
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| Quote: Funky Cowboy "1. I think Wigan were outstanding given the length of the injury list, my bum was twitching after Manfredis 3rd
2. We don't neglect our academy, we're not at Leeds, Wigan and Saints level yet but we have improved dramatically the past 5-8 years. We have seen players like Jack Johnson, Gene Ormsby, Rhys Evans, Toby King, Gareth O'Brien (now at Salford), Declan Patton, James Lathwaite, Brad Dwyer, George King, Kevin Penny, Ben Evans, Ben Currie, Joe Philbin and Tyrone McCarthy(NRL).
3. There was no diving or feigning injury, we lost two key players to injury as well
4. How are the trophies going to be shared between Warrington and Wigan when you're going to "walk the league easy" and you don't rate us?
The majority of Wigan fans display a high level of knowledge of our great game. I'm guessing your post was fuelled by post game disappointment and you're not really that narrow minded. It's going to a great season and expect some more tense battles along the way.'"
I wouldn't worry about one poster. S/he is not representative of the vast majority of Wigan fans. To be honest with some of the stuff this poster comes out with I'm not sure they are a Wigan fan at all.
As for last night you started brilliantly and we were not at the races. I dread to think what would have happened if Sandow hadn't pulled his hamstring. Taking nothing away from Warrington in the first half we were I'll diciplined and defensively poor. The second half was much improved for us and possibly the best we've attacked all year. I think we are struggling more with the players we have missing being in key positions.
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| At last, some common sense. Well said Nicky Kiss (as usual) and Wigan Peer.
2 points (and a bit of bragging), but that's it.
Nowt won in April.
As for the Easter schedule....I don't mind it, Good Friday and Easter Monday. I just think the RFL should tell Sky to take a running jump, about having a game on the telly, on the following Friday (or even Saturday).
Let the players catch their breath, and play all that round's games on the Sunday. If they insist on 2 TV games that weekend, and no clashes with non TV games, simply have 1 kicking off at 12:30, then 4 non TV games kick off @3 pm, then have your next one kick off at 5:30. Simple. Players get extra recovery time, and Sky still get their 2 games.
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| Wow. This is one deluded post. Others having already picked the necessary holes in the post but Wire at full strength? Missing players who would be in the 17:
Dwyer
Dodds
Harrison
Laithwaite
Sandow (after 25 mins)
Evans (after 20 mins)
We don't have as many injuries as you but don't kid yourself that we were full strength!
As for a Moral victory by any wigan team coached by Wane!!!
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| How many points do you get for a moral victory Pacific?
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| Quote: silver2 "Can't believe what I'm reading. Warrington are two men down for the majority of the game, numerous others are carrying knocks from the Easter period, Ratchford is kneed in the kidneys are you're claiming a moral victory. It brothers belief.'"
Just shows how far Wigan have fallen from grace when a loss pleases their coach so much.
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| Quote: jj86 "Wow. This is one deluded post. Others having already picked the necessary holes in the post but Wire at full strength? Missing players who would be in the 17
The post is clearly to get a few bites from Wire fans but we've got to be sensible about it. Where and how would you fit Harrison and Laithwaite in your side? You'd have to be telling me you're dropping two of Currie, Hughes, Westwood or Westerman and you clearly ain't doing that. If you're saying you could put Harrison at prop then you'd be selecting him ahead of Hill, Simms or Cox and again that won't be happening.
If everyone was available for Wire Dwyer would have been in possibly for Ratchford (or for Evans with Ratchford at centre) and Dodds would probably be in for King. Tell me anything else and you're telling porky pies!
As for the in game injuries, I blame the RFL for Sandows. We also lost the our best player who's our captain and the England captain. Swings and roundabouts on that score.
As I've already posted there's far bigger and better games to come which should give a more realistic gage of where both teams are at.
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| Full squad
Dodds for King
Dwyer rotating with Clarke
Ratch on the bench .
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| Quote: Wire Yed "Full squad
Dodds for King
Dwyer rotating with Clarke
Ratch on the bench .'"
Finally a fair enough summary.
Struggling to see how Dwyer and Ratchford fit on your bench unless you're dropping a back rower but it's the closest I've seen.
Our strongest team would be-
Tomkins
Manfredi Gelling Gildart Charnley
Williams Smith
Flower McIlorum Clubb
Tomkins Bateman Lockers
Tautai Farrell Powell plus one of Crosby/Mossop/Sutton.
A definite 6 missing last night and a potential 7 if Crosby were to be selected.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Finally a fair enough summary.
Struggling to see how Dwyer and Ratchford fit on your bench unless you're dropping a back rower but it's the closest I've seen.
Our strongest team would be-
Tomkins
Manfredi Gelling Gildart Charnley
Williams Smith
Flower McIlorum Clubb
Tomkins Bateman Lockers
Tautai Farrell Powell plus one of Crosby/Mossop/Sutton.
A definite 6 missing last night and a potential 7 if Crosby were to be selected.'"
I thought that the plan was to move Lockers to prop this year and Bateman to loose? If so, you are wrong about our strongest team.
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| Quote: Pacific "I thought that the plan was to move Lockers to prop this year and Bateman to loose? If so, you are wrong about our strongest team.'"
May well be.
We'd still be missing 6 or 7 from our strongest side either way.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Finally a fair enough summary.
Struggling to see how Dwyer and Ratchford fit on your bench unless you're dropping a back rower but it's the closest I've seen.
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Because Ratch plays every position except 8 and 10, sometimes Currie is shifted to centre to accommodate more forwards on the pitch then switches into the pack during the game.
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| But the story it doesn't tell is although we have on paper our strongest side, they're playing week in week out because they can't be rotated, so on paper they look strong but they are going into games with knocks and niggles.
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| You're playing out your skin if that there is no doubt. We were lucky last night that Sandow went off or else it could have got out of hand. It was a strange game because both sides have come away pretty happy with it which is unusual in such a big game when one side has won reasonably comfortably.
The next Wigan and Wire game should be a belter.
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